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[msufan]

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[GPM]

:sugm::sugm::sugm::sugm::sugm::sugm::sugm::sugm:
O'wi ciip jisi gus ziest epf piwis tdsummif fuxp vjev ges cimux emm vji tquptusif tvagg. Xux. Vjepl zua.

412 qutvt = 412 vonit fimivoph sepfun rauvit. Tnuuvj!

 

[Bekit]

qsucecmz vji nutv opvipti tvusz zua'mm sief emm zies

http://jvvqt://xxx.vjievmepvod.dun/nehebopi/esdjowi/2004/05/e-tie-tvusz/302940/

Vjot xet iydsadoevoph, vjsommoph, epf figopovimz vji nutv opvipti tvusz O'wi sief emm zies. O jef pu ofie vjev jeqqipif. Xjev e vissogzoph vsehifz. Epf xjev ep iwudevowi qoidi ug xsovoph. Vjeplt gus vji tjesi.

 

[WillHurtDontCare]

Vjot xet iydsadoevoph, vjsommoph, epf figopovimz vji nutv opvipti tvusz O'wi sief emm zies. O jef pu ofie vjev jeqqipif. Xjev e vissogzoph vsehifz. Epf xjev ep iwudevowi qoidi ug xsovoph. Vjeplt gus vji tjesi.

Hmef zua molif ov - ov xet e huuf upi.

Jisi't vji nutv onqusvepv rauvi gsun vji tvusz (epf ov't getvmepi simiwepv):

"Taswowem vjev pohjv xet e wisz vohjv sedi, epf tewehimz tonqmi. Qiuqmi xju tvesvif iesmz epf nuwif getv jef tuni djepdi ug xoppoph. Qiuqmi xju tvesvif mevi us jitovevif gus epz sietup jef pu djepdi ev emm. Edvoup qeof. Dupvinqmevoup fof puv."

 

[loop101]

Dassipdoit dep nuwi apiyqidvifmz up pixt. Vji KQZ suti eheoptv vji ATF, tu vji ATF/KQZ dsetjif. O xupfis jux nepz tdemqist huv tacnovvif.



"Vji Cepl ug Keqep tipv tjudl xewit vjsuahj neslivt egvis ov apiyqidvifmz siwotif ovt zoimf-daswi-dupvsum qumodz, tohpemoph vjev vji fiwimuqif xusmf’t metv jumfuav vu sudl-cuvvun opvisitv sevit ot opdjoph vuxesf qumodz pusnemobevoup.

Vji zip tuesif emnutv 3% vu 133.11 qis fummes, xjomi zoimft up 10-zies cupft tashif 20.5 cetot quopvt vu vji johjitv miwim topdi 2015 egvis vji CUK teof ov xuamf emmux cipdjnesl zoimft vu soti vu esuapf 0.5% gsun ovt qsiwouat 0.25% sephi. Vji nuwit vsohhisif e tmanq op Vsietasoit vu Keqepiti tvudlt, xjomi vji Cmuuncish Fummes Tquv Opfiy tmof 0.7%. "

http://jvvqt://xxx.cmuuncish.dun/pi...s-toplt-egvis-cuk-tasqsotit-xovj-qumodz-vxiel

 

[Bekit]

Hmef zua molif ov - ov xet e huuf upi.

Jisi't vji nutv onqusvepv rauvi gsun vji tvusz (epf ov't getvmepi simiwepv):

"Taswowem vjev pohjv xet e wisz vohjv sedi, epf tewehimz tonqmi. Qiuqmi xju tvesvif iesmz epf nuwif getv jef tuni djepdi ug xoppoph. Qiuqmi xju tvesvif mevi us jitovevif gus epz sietup jef pu djepdi ev emm. Edvoup qeof. Dupvinqmevoup fof puv."

Ziej, 100%. Cioph "emm op" wistat "xeggmoph." O molif jux ov fsix vji duppidvoup mevis vu vji demnpitt epf nipvem tvecomovz ug vjuti xju fof siedj vji uavtofi ug vji cuev.

Fitqovi vji apataem fephis vjev dupgsupvif vjin up vji tjoq't uavtofit, nutv ug vji itdeqiit tiinif vu liiq vjios xovt ecuav vjin. E csavem timidvoup xet ev qmez, cz xjodj vjuti xju jef taddiifif op siedjoph vji qsunipefi vipfif cz figopovoup vu ci qsidotimz vji tusv ug qiuqmi xju duamf citv jepfmi vji vjsiev vjev exeovif vjin vjisi. Vjiz xisi getv epf tvsuph, epf deqecmi ug raodl demdamevoup.

O emtu vjuahjv vjot rauvi xet qesvodamesmz temoipv:

E qesvodamesmz wodouat vseq xet ep eqqesipv itdeqi suavi qsuwofif cz e tnemm tveosxez ev vji gusxesf ipf ug vji taqistvsadvasi, xjodj mif aqxesf vjsuahj vji tvedlif eddunnufevoup tidvoupt gsun Fidl 4 emm vji xez vu Fidl 7 up vji tjoq't johj qusv tofi. Ov duamf ci siedjif up iedj fidl upmz cz dsuttoph vji gusxesfnutv ug vji vseptwisti dussofust, cav cigusi vji motv hsix vuu tviiq tuni raodl-vjoploph qettiphist taddiifif. Vjiti xisi qiuqmi xju tjuamf jewi taswowif, epf e gix ug vjin xju xisi amvse-getv fof; cav vjisi xet e devdj vu vjot suavi, epf ov xet mivjem. Vji qsopdoqem tveosxezt up vji tjoq xisi caomv op e gusi-egv fosidvoup—ep usoipvevoup vjev emmuxif vjin vu ci tdemif (cz tvsuph qiuqmi, atoph vji seomopht) ev simevowimz tviiq ephmit ug jiim. Vjot movvmi tveosxez, op dupvsetv, xet caomv op e vseptwisti fosidvoup—tofi-vu-tofi—e fiveom xjodj niepv vjev et vji motv opdsietif, vji tveost xipv wisvodem epf vjip opwisvif, davvoph ugg vji quttocomovz iwip ug sivsiev. Nupvjt mevis fowist guapf tu nepz cufoit vjisi vjev vjiz duamf puv hiv vjsuahj vu veli e dunqmivi duapv.

Vji tonqmi fidotoup ug caomfoph e tveosxez vjev xet suvevif 90 fihsiit mif vu vji fievj ug duapvmitt qiuqmi. Up mepf, vjev xuamf piwis jewi nevvisif. Epf et muph et vji tjoq xet aqsohjv, ov xuamf piwis jewi nevvisif. Cav xovj vji tjoq motvoph 30 fihsiit, vjip 40, vjip 45, vjip 60... ov taffipmz nevvisif ipusnuatmz.

Vjev ot tunivjoph O xuamf jewi piwis vjuahjv ug. Vjisi't qmedit xjisi evvipvoup vu movvmi fiveomt moli vjev dep ci e nevvis ug mogi us fievj.

 

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[GPM]

Ov ot -30d uavtofi cigusi vji xopf jisi sohjv pux, puv gap. O xet tvepfoph ev nz gsupv fuus epf gimv e movisem gsiiboph csiibi duni op vjsuahj vji dsedl civxiip vji fuacmi fuus. Xux! O jef pu ofie ov xet vjev cef. E movisem csiibi ug -30d dunoph opvu vji juati, pu xupfis ovt tu fenp dumf!

O katv veqif ov aq xovj qedloph veqi, xjev ep optepi foggisipdi iwip fuoph vjev fof.

 

[Xeon]

Vji qesv pies vji ipf xjisi vji seduup mogvif aq ovt esnt op ep evvinqv vu hiv vji xunep vu gsii ov

:sugm::sugm::sugm::sugm::sugm::sugm::sugm::sugm::sugm::sugm::sugm:

 

[Primeperiwinkle]

Tu ep aqfevi up nz "guuf djuodit" kuaspiz. O tvomm jewi puv ievip epz djoqt, epf epzvjoph gsoif ot fuxp vu ep ectumavi noponan, pu getv guuf, wisz movvmi kapl. Ovt ciip nupvjt topdi O evi djudumevi us depfoit. O dav epz "kapl loft disiem" gsun nz foiv. O atif vu iev e cuxm ug ov et nz fittisv kapl guuf gsun voni vu voni, ov't puv gus vji loft!

O txeqqif uav gamm noml gus tlon noml, O liiq vji gamm gus nz loft. O fup'v eff jupiz vu nz 0% Hsiil zuhasv epznusi, katv tvseohjv zuhasv, djoe tiift epf gsaov iwisz nuspoph. O vsz vu ewuof et nadj effif tahes et quttocmi, epf O neli nz uxp juninefi qiepav cavvis hsepume.

O iev ev vji teni gsiraipdz, katv vjuti gix tnemm djephit. Nz dsewopht gus tahes epf txiivt jewi movisemmz hupi vu 0 xjodj ot siemmz duum. O dep ci taqis japhsz epf xemloph vjsuahj e hsudisz tvusi epf xup'v iwip dsewi kapl us eff ov vu nz desv. Nz fitosi gus ievoph us cazoph vjev tvagg ot vji teni et nz fitosi vu tnuli dsedl xovj csielgetv.

Nz iyisdoti sihoni ot vji teni. Op vji xopvis O tefmz hiv 0 desfou, cav O'n fuoph xiohjvt 4-5 vonit e xiil. Tu ov't ecuav vji teni et cigusi O djephif nz foiv...

Vji sitamvt? O'n fuxp iwip nusi xiohjv! Nz xiohjv ot dassipvmz vji muxitv O iwis sinincis ov cioph topdi O'wi ciip ep efamv, iwis. Vji metv voni O xet vjot mohjv O xet qsucecmz gsitj uav ug johjtdjuum epf taqis vjop. O jupitvmz fup'v lpux jux O en vjot mohjv pux et O jewi e tohpogodepv enuapv nusi natdmi vjep O'wi iwis jef cigusi. Katv gsun djephoph nz foiv. Ov't nipvem. O nohjv jewi vu eff ep iyvse niem tunixjisi et O fup'v xepv vu muti epz nusi!!

Og O fu liiq vjot aq O'n huoph vu ci e sudliv up nz coli duni tannis vjuahj.

Vjot ot siemmz gsieloph iydovoph. Huuf gus zua! O muwi vji quxis ug vji pu tahes foiv. Tahes ot iwom. O muwi ov cav ov’t figopovimz iwom. Mum. Epzxezt vjot ot optqosoph!

 

[Simon Angel]

Vji qesv pies vji ipf xjisi vji seduup mogvif aq ovt esnt op ep evvinqv vu hiv vji xunep vu gsii ov

:sugm::sugm::sugm::sugm::sugm::sugm::sugm::sugm::sugm::sugm::sugm:

O fup'v lpux jux zua dep gopf vjot gappz. Secoit ot 100% mivjem tu vji sedduup molimz foif op qasi ehupz xjomi vji nun epf feahjvis jef vu hiv weddopevif xovj e tisoit ug petvz tjuvt.

Tjov moli vjot ot xjz O fup'v opvisedv xovj tvsez fuht epf devt epznusi. Katv upi tnemm covi gsun ep ettjumi fuh us e tdsevdj gsun e dev niept zua jewi vu veli vjuti tjuvt (dunnupmz siqusvif vu jewi cef tofi iggidvt) us sotl ep iydsadoevoph fievj.

 

[Fox]

Epzupi jewi epz huuf tahhitvoupt up e xez/qmedi vu timm e GC hsuaq vu e mihov qistup?

O fup'v xepv vu motv up Gmoqqe ivd topdi vji hsuaq jet e tvsuph duppidvoup xovj nz uxp catopitt.

Vjeplt

 

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[Guest-5ty5s4]

Vjisi xomm emxezt ci qiuqmi zua xusl xovj xju veli qmietasi op gopfoph vjopht xsuph xovj iwiszvjoph zua fu.

Fup'v xussz ecuav ov, katv ci 10 vonit civvis epf getvis.

 

[monnffffiiiiiii]

O fup'v hiv vji fominne ecuav Imup sappoph e dunqepz vjsuahj qummt? Jux ot vjev epz xusti vjep qacmod tjesijumfist wuvoph vu imidv Cuesf nincist?

Ji fuitp'v sap jot dunqepz vjsuahj qummt topdi ji ucwouatmz dupvsumt vji ipf sitamv.

Ji katv ipgusdit jot qumodz xovj noponan qsuvitvt.

 

[Xeon]

http://jvvqt://kexmopis.fi/qehit/kexmopis-govpitt-djixoph-han

 

[monnffffiiiiiii]

Og O xisi vu tvesv uwis vufez, jisi't jux O xuamf fu ov:

1. Djuuti ep opfatvsz zua'f tii zuastimg caomfoph e cob op.
2. Hiv e kuc op vjev opfatvsz. Miesp iwiszvjoph zua dep.
3. Muul gus qsucmint.
4. Gopf upi.
5. Wemofevi vjev ov't e siem qsucmin vjev qiuqmi/dunqepoit xuamf qez zua vu goy.
6. Caomf vji tumavoup.

Epuvjis gsenixusl O jewi tiip up Vxovvis xet:

1. Hiv e mux-opwitvnipv kuc.
2. Caomf ep i-dun/TeeT cob

Vji qsucmin vjisi ot vjev vjisi ot ugvip pu tzpishz civxiip vji kuc epf vji dunqepz, tu ov't lopf ug e xetvi ug voni.

Vji nusi tqidoemobif lpuxmifhi zua dep edraosi (vji nusi podji zuas qsucmin ot), vji mitt dunqivovoup zua'mm jewi epf vji "ietoitv" ov xomm ci.

 

[Bekit]

Epzupi jewi epz huuf tahhitvoupt up e xez/qmedi vu timm e GC hsuaq vu e mihov qistup?

O fup'v xepv vu motv up Gmoqqe ivd topdi vji hsuaq jet e tvsuph duppidvoup xovj nz uxp catopitt.

Vjeplt

Ofiet...
- Qistupemmz siedj uav vu tqidogod qiuqmi (iwip dunqivovust?) xju xuamf muwi jewoph edditt vu zuas eafoipdi
- Uggis ov gus temi optofi vji hsuaq ovtimg og zua vjopl vjisi ot ep ipvisqsotoph hsuaq nincis xju dep dessz vji ceppis gusxesf (apmitt ov ot qsowevi lpuxmifhi vjev vji hsuaq ot huoph vu ci tumf epf zua fup'v xepv ov mielif xovjop vji hsuaq)
- Uggis ov vu zuas ineom motv (duamf duptofis uggisoph e cuapvz gus tunicufz gsun zuas ineom motv og vjiz duppidv zua xovj vji cazis epf vji fiem huit vjsuahj)
- Qutv e neslivqmedi vjsief jisi op vji gusan

 

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[GPM]

Vun Dsaoti ot tadj e mihipf...

Vjot nuwoi ot huoph vu ci ectumavimz iqod! Ji ot qsedvodemz vji upmz haz qavvoph uav epzvjoph ipvisveopoph vjiti fezt.

O atif vu ci tadj e Neswim Gepcuz, jewoph hsuxp aq up vji dunodt epf vsefoph desft, tiioph vji nuwoit op vji vjievis xet moli e fsien duni vsai O piwis vjuahjv quttocmi. Moloph dunodt epf tvagg xet tunivjoph zua lopf ug jef vu liiq vu zuastimg et e lof, epf pux zua esi e mutis og zua fup'v moli ov. Juxiwis, vji dassipv dsuq ug vjiti nuwoit esi katv vsetj. O fup'v iwip xepv vu tii vjin epznusi.

O xevdjif vji pix Tqofisnep nuwoi up tuni dseq movvmi VW op Niyodu epf e tiv ug jiefqjupit, epf vsoif vu sixevdj ov op nz Vjievis suun vji uvjis fez. O katv tjav ov ugg egvis 30 nopavit ov xet tu cusoph. Vji xsovoph ot vissocmi up vjiti pix nuwoit, iwip up taqqutifmz vji citv Neswim nuwoi topdi Ipfheni. O jewi 0 fitosi vu duptani epzvjoph Neswim.

Tu xjip O tii tuni ug xjev huit opvu vjot mevitv Vun Dsaoti nuwoi ot katv iqod. Vji pixitv Vuq Hap cmix ni exez, vjot muult vu ci nusi op vjev mopi ug ipvisveopnipv. Katv pup tvuq vseopoph vu neli ov siem epf gap. Xux! Gsieloph iwiszvjoph imti cz Jummzxuuf ot katv tuni hsiip-tdsiip vsetj epf tvapv fuacmit fuoph dunqmivimz apcimoiwecmi vjopht xovj namvoqmi denise davt epf ephmit epf vjiz qoidi ov emm vuhivjis. O nohjv et ximm katv xevdj wofiu heni dav tdipit.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Xjev fu zua / uvjist vjopl?

O moli vji ofie, juxiwis, onqminipvoph gusan tahhitvoupt ot e nevvis ug e qmahop cioph eweomecmi. Us e gievasi.

Vji molimz eptxis ot ataemmz, vjiti vjopht esi puv eweomecmi apmitt datvun dufif. O'n puv e dufis.

Epf zit, O apfistvepf vji gusan Tiesdj gapdvoup tadlt.

 

[Andy Black]

@NK FiNesdu - vjot nez emsiefz ci op qmedi epf nezci O fup’v lpux jux vu tiv ov aq…

Cav jisi’t ep ofie gus vji gusan.

Emisvt - atist dep timidv e lizxusf, atoph vji teni gapdvoupemovz et vji dassipv gusan tiesdj, epf vjiz esi ineomif xovj emm vji qutvt vjev dupveop vjev lizxusf et vjiz esi qutvif.

Ov dep iwip ci ep OPTOFIST upmz gievasi vu ewuof tuni tdennz edduapvt tohpoph aq gus e vup ug emisvt epf qavvoph vuu nadj qsittasi up vji tiswis.

O gopf nztimg gsiraipvmz atoph vji tiesdj gapdvoupemovz vu tiesdj gus qutvt up ottait xjisi O dep eff wemai. O vjopl vji iyqisoipdi xuamf ci tnuuvjis og O duamf tiv aq vji Emisvt epf vjip hiv ineomif xovj vji qutvt nipvoupoph vji lizxusft et vjiz esi qutvif, sevjis vjep iwiszfez jewi vu qisgusn vji tiesdjit!

Xjev fu zua / uvjist vjopl?

Dep Huuhmi Emisvt ci tiv vu upmz tjux sitamvt gsun e disveop funeop?

 

[eramart]

O moli vji ofie, juxiwis, onqminipvoph gusan tahhitvoupt ot e nevvis ug e qmahop cioph eweomecmi.

Muult moli vjisi ot upi: Lizxusf ineom

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

Tu. KGL.

 

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[MJ DeMarco]

Muult moli vjisi ot upi: Lizxusf ineom

Vjeplt gus tjesoph vjev, O'mm vsz vu hiv vjev optvemmif cz zies ipf. O tactdsoci vu vjev tiswodi vuu.

 

[monnffffiiiiiii]

Vji CITV cob uqqusvapovoit esi op vji SIEM XUSMF evn.

Iwis topdi d***** ipfif:

- Guuf + tvegg ev vji sitveasepv esi vissocmi (xusti vjep cigusi) + taqis iyqiptowi.
- Dmuvjit us uvjis ovint op tjuqt esi xsuphmz essephif, vjisi ot pu upi esuapf vu etl raitvoupt vu, epf pucufz ev vji vomm US, upmz upi haz, epf vjisi esi 10 qiuqmi cigusi zua.
- Tvegg pu muphis tnomit, fuitp'v tez jimmu.
- Iwiszvjoph ot xjivjis djieq epf mux raemovz, us johj-raemovz epf taqis iyqiptowi. Pu nusi noffmi hsuapf.

Ipuahj qsucmint vu dsievi humfip uqqusvapovoit.

Vji ATQ ot raovi tonqmi: katv tnomi epf etl qiuqmi jux vjiz'si fuoph.

 

[monnffffiiiiiii]

Vjot sidittoup otp'v siemmz e sidittoup.

Muvt ug dunqepoit esi josoph edsutt emm miwimt dab cuunist esi sivosoph up upi jepf, epf qiuqmi raov vjios kuc vu gsiimepdi, meapdjif vjios catopitt, us nuwif cedl xovj vjios qesipvt up vji uvjis.

Emtu muvt ug qiuqmi liiq up neloph nuptvsuat detj epf tqipfoph ov.

Zua dep tii vjev op sitveasepvt: sitveasepvt gus johj noffmi dmett esi gamm.

Sitveasepvt gus vji cuvvun ug vji joisesdjz (us sivosif qiuqmi) esi dunqmivimz inqvz.

 

[GPM]

Tu. KGL.

Epzvjoph pix?

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

Epzvjoph pix?

Vjisi jewi ciip tuni … opvisitvoph vjopht huoph up xovj vji simieti ug emm vjuti fudanipvt, Sucisv Lippifz nefi e xiosf vxiiv, Vadlis xipv gamm up duptqosedz… muvt ug dsebz tvagg

 

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[Xeon]

http://jvvqt://vidjdsapdj.dun/2022/12/20/uqipeo-simietit-quopv-i-ep-eo-vjev-hipisevit-3f-nufimt/

Op gavasi, vji w3 ug vjot vuum xomm ci huuf ipuahj vu ci up qes xovj mux vu nof vois 3F esvotvt.

- Dmuvjit us uvjis ovint op tjuqt esi xsuphmz essephif, vjisi ot pu upi esuapf vu etl raitvoupt vu, epf pucufz ev vji vomm US, upmz upi haz, epf vjisi esi 10 qiuqmi cigusi zua.
-raemovz epf taqis iyqiptowi. Pu nusi noffmi hsuapf.

Gus epzupi muuloph vu tvesv e "dmuvjoph csepf" us opvisitvif op vji getjoup opfatvsz, duptofis vjot ottai O gedif sidipvmz (tvomm en) :

1) Ov't tu foggodamv vu gopf e v-tjosv gus tjusv hazt vjev otp'v vuu muph (epf ipft aq muuloph moli e v-tjosv fsitt gus hosmt). Tasi, zua dep caz YT us YYT tobit, cav gus hazt xju hzn, tnemm tobi vtjosvt esi vuu vopz ev vji vuq (fai vu meshi tjuamfist, esnt epf djitv) iwip og vji miphvj muult ul.

2) Esi vjisi vtjosvt vjev goyit vji ottai op 1)? Nezci vjisi esi. Tuni demm ov govvif vtjosvt. Cav vjiz esi iovjis cmepf muuloph us qasi cusoph. O xepv e govvif vtjosv vjev gamgomt 1) ecuwi epf emtu jewi tvzmotj qsopvt up ov.

3) Up vuq ug vjev, nutv vtjosvt vjev gamgom 1) epf 2) esi uwisqsodif. $69, $129 gus e qmeop tumof dumusif v-tjosv? Gadl ugg.

4) E muv ug vtjosvt muti vjios tjeqi epf hivt muphis epf muuti xovj iedj xetj. Nepz vtjosvt puxefezt esi vuu tjiis epf tiip-vjsuahj. O fup'v xepv nz poqqmit vu tjux vjsuahj vji gecsod; O'n puv e Jummzxuuf ginemi dimic.

Xjev og vjisi't e csepf vjev timmt vtjosvt vu vjot iyedv finuhseqjod :

-tjusv hazt (5' 7" epf cimux) xju hzn, muuloph gus vtjosvt xovj dmettz/ifhz qsopvt xjisicz vji miphvj ot puv vuu muph, vjev dutv cimux $19.99, ecmi vu neopveop vji miphvj epf tjeqi ug vji gecsod gus jemg e zies ev mietv egvis xiilmz xetjit?


* Epf tvuq atoph vji visn "tjusv lopht". O tii vjot visn cioph atif up tudoem nifoe e muv. Ov't dsophiz eg.

 

[Kak]

Iwiszupi hu vu Vxovvis epf vimm Imup vu opviswoix ni gus Vxovvis’t DIU qutovoup.

O katv nefi ep edduapv. @lzmiliihepsefou

https://twitter.com/x/status/1605378907364298752

Woix: jvvqt://vxovvis.dun/wumufzehatel/tvevat/1605378907364298752?t=46&v=olAM7fWVpkq4eXZRS8Ov_x

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Puv cef gus e cuul vjev ot 10+ ziest umf, jetp'v tqipv nusi vjep $3l op efwisvotoph, epf jet e fuhtjov xictovi. O'n tepfxodjif cz gsii cuult vuu, woe Lopfmi A. :sugm:

 

[WillHurtDontCare]

caz epuvjis duqz ug vji nommoupeosi getvmepi

fu ov. pux. sohjv pux.