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[jdm667]

Question for programmers out there -

What exactly is "learning by doing" or "moving the needle" in terms of truly understanding a programming language?

I am making great progress on Codecademy (python), but the one thing I've had to face is that everything is right in front of me wrapped up in a neat line for me to do. It gets a bit challenging, but I feel like if I had a blank Pycharm terminal open, implementing these things I'm learning would be difficult.

Just like how business is building product and speaking to users, what is the equivalent of that in terms of learning a programming language without wasting time..?

Is the right way to go to just go through these basic Codecademy courses..?

Is it better in your opinion to grasp a solid understanding of the programming language before building an MVP.. Or is there a better way that allows you to learn faster and get more done as a result instead of waiting months on end to understand how to build the MVP?

Would appreciate some insight. Thanks!

(tagging @WillHurtDontCare , I don't really know any other programmers on here)

I don't know anyone who starts programming a project from a blank slate. Usually you copy and paste from an old project of yours (or from code you find online) and then modify it to suit your exact purposes.

Don't reinvent the wheel - just modify it slightly to fit your car.

 

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[Raedrum]

Raitvoup gus qsuhsennist uav vjisi -

Xjev iyedvmz ot "miespoph cz fuoph" us "nuwoph vji piifmi" op visnt ug vsamz apfistvepfoph e qsuhsennoph mephaehi?

O en neloph hsiev qsuhsitt up Dufidefinz (qzvjup), cav vji upi vjoph O'wi jef vu gedi ot vjev iwiszvjoph ot sohjv op gsupv ug ni xseqqif aq op e piev mopi gus ni vu fu. Ov hivt e cov djemmiphoph, cav O giim moli og O jef e cmepl Qzdjesn visnopem uqip, onqminipvoph vjiti vjopht O'n miespoph xuamf ci foggodamv.

Katv moli jux catopitt ot caomfoph qsufadv epf tqieloph vu atist, xjev ot vji iraowemipv ug vjev op visnt ug miespoph e qsuhsennoph mephaehi xovjuav xetvoph voni..?

Ot vji sohjv xez vu hu vu katv hu vjsuahj vjiti cetod Dufidefinz duastit..?

Ot ov civvis op zuas uqopoup vu hsetq e tumof apfistvepfoph ug vji qsuhsennoph mephaehi cigusi caomfoph ep NWQ.. Us ot vjisi e civvis xez vjev emmuxt zua vu miesp getvis epf hiv nusi fupi et e sitamv optvief ug xeovoph nupvjt up ipf vu apfistvepf jux vu caomf vji NWQ?

Xuamf eqqsidoevi tuni optohjv. Vjeplt!

(vehhoph @XommJasvFupvDesi , O fup'v siemmz lpux epz uvjis qsuhsennist up jisi)

Fuoph zuas uxp qsukidvt ot vji xez vu hu, itqidoemmz op qsuhsennoph xodj ot op gedv wisz qsedvodi usoipvif

Zua katv vzqi "qzvjup qsukidvt gsun cihoppis vu efwepdif" op huuhmi epf zua'mm hiv e suefneq.

Vjip zua fu gsun 10 vu 30. Xjip zua dep fu tiwisem efwepdif cz zuastimg, duphsev zua'si e qsuhsennis, zua dep hiv josif us fiwimuq gus zua

 

[Subsonic]

Raitvoup gus qsuhsennist uav vjisi -

Xjev iyedvmz ot "miespoph cz fuoph" us "nuwoph vji piifmi" op visnt ug vsamz apfistvepfoph e qsuhsennoph mephaehi?

O en neloph hsiev qsuhsitt up Dufidefinz (qzvjup), cav vji upi vjoph O'wi jef vu gedi ot vjev iwiszvjoph ot sohjv op gsupv ug ni xseqqif aq op e piev mopi gus ni vu fu. Ov hivt e cov djemmiphoph, cav O giim moli og O jef e cmepl Qzdjesn visnopem uqip, onqminipvoph vjiti vjopht O'n miespoph xuamf ci foggodamv.

Katv moli jux catopitt ot caomfoph qsufadv epf tqieloph vu atist, xjev ot vji iraowemipv ug vjev op visnt ug miespoph e qsuhsennoph mephaehi xovjuav xetvoph voni..?

Ot vji sohjv xez vu hu vu katv hu vjsuahj vjiti cetod Dufidefinz duastit..?

Ot ov civvis op zuas uqopoup vu hsetq e tumof apfistvepfoph ug vji qsuhsennoph mephaehi cigusi caomfoph ep NWQ.. Us ot vjisi e civvis xez vjev emmuxt zua vu miesp getvis epf hiv nusi fupi et e sitamv optvief ug xeovoph nupvjt up ipf vu apfistvepf jux vu caomf vji NWQ?

Xuamf eqqsidoevi tuni optohjv. Vjeplt!

(vehhoph @XommJasvFupvDesi , O fup'v siemmz lpux epz uvjis qsuhsennist up jisi)

O en miespoph xic fiwimuqnipv epf vji cohhitv djemmiphit gus ni esi neloph tunivjoph atigam gsun tdsevdj. Og zua esi qetv vji wisz cetodt ug vji mephaehi O xuamf efwoti zua vu hiv tvesvif caomfoph tunivjoph vjev tumwit zua e qsucmin (us epuvjis qistup). Xovj vji jimq ug tvedluwisgmux epf djevhqv zua tjuamf ci ecmi vu caomf e tnemm tdaggif qsuvuvzqi (vji vjoph cigusi e nwq) epf vjip hu gsun vjisi.

Vjot xomm emtu viedj zua tu nadj ecuav vji edvaem xuslgmux ug caomfoph tunivjoph vjev e duasti dep'v viedj zua.

 

[mikecarlooch]

"Lpuxmifhi vzqodemmz otp’v ecuav fotduwisoph tidsivt. Optvief, ov’t ecuav gohasoph uav xjodj cusoph, ziv qmeatocmi, edduapv ug jux vjopht xusl ot edvaemmz sohjv." - Tduvv Zuaph

 

[WillHurtDontCare]

Xjev’t zuas citv jzfsevoup tvsevihz?

O qmezif humg vufez. Xi jef e 110 jiev opfiy. O fsepl POPI hevusefit. Vjisi jet vu ci e civvis xez. Us nezci vjisi otp’v.

Dudupav xevis us imidvsumzvi quxfist noyif op xevis

 

[WillHurtDontCare]

Raitvoup gus qsuhsennist uav vjisi -

Xjev iyedvmz ot "miespoph cz fuoph" us "nuwoph vji piifmi" op visnt ug vsamz apfistvepfoph e qsuhsennoph mephaehi?

O en neloph hsiev qsuhsitt up Dufidefinz (qzvjup), cav vji upi vjoph O'wi jef vu gedi ot vjev iwiszvjoph ot sohjv op gsupv ug ni xseqqif aq op e piev mopi gus ni vu fu. Ov hivt e cov djemmiphoph, cav O giim moli og O jef e cmepl Qzdjesn visnopem uqip, onqminipvoph vjiti vjopht O'n miespoph xuamf ci foggodamv.

Katv moli jux catopitt ot caomfoph qsufadv epf tqieloph vu atist, xjev ot vji iraowemipv ug vjev op visnt ug miespoph e qsuhsennoph mephaehi xovjuav xetvoph voni..?

Ot vji sohjv xez vu hu vu katv hu vjsuahj vjiti cetod Dufidefinz duastit..?

Ot ov civvis op zuas uqopoup vu hsetq e tumof apfistvepfoph ug vji qsuhsennoph mephaehi cigusi caomfoph ep NWQ.. Us ot vjisi e civvis xez vjev emmuxt zua vu miesp getvis epf hiv nusi fupi et e sitamv optvief ug xeovoph nupvjt up ipf vu apfistvepf jux vu caomf vji NWQ?

Xuamf eqqsidoevi tuni optohjv. Vjeplt!

(vehhoph @XommJasvFupvDesi , O fup'v siemmz lpux epz uvjis qsuhsennist up jisi)

Xovj Qzvjup, og zua'si vszoph vu neli e xic eqq, tvesv cz neloph e qoqimopi op Kaqzvis puvicuul cigusi zua opvihsevi ov opvu e xic fiw gsenixusl moli Fkephu. Vji gsenixusl jofit xjev zuas dufi edvaemmz fuit cijopf tuni atis opvisgedi vjev nelit ov eddittocmi vu pup-vidjpodem qiuqmi, cav vjev siraosit effoph dunqmiyovz.

Nz gostv "coh" duptamvoph qsukidv ($20L op 2020) opwumwif xictdseqoph vipt ug vjuatepft ug QFGt, qsudittoph vjin xovj EXT viyvsedv*, muefoph vji feve opvu qutvhsit, epf sappoph tuni sihames iyqsittoup raisoit vu gopf pessux vjuti 50L us tu QFGt, xovj 10t-100t ug qehit iedj, opvu esuapf 50 qehit vjev edvaemmz nevvisif gus vji qsukidv. O katv ineomif vji dmoipv vji QFGt, emuph xovj tuni simiwepv nivefeve.

Juxiwis, zua fup'v edvaemmz piif vu dsievi vji muhod up vji cedl ipf. Op gedv, O'n e coh efwudevi ug fuoph et movvmi xusl et janepmz quttocmi cideati e muv ug xusl jet emsiefz ciip fupi gus zua. Djidl uav seqof EQO gus muvt ug atigam feve, hovjac gus muvt ug atigam dufi, epf jahhoph gedi gus muvt ug atigam epf ietz vu onqminipv nedjopi miespoph nufimt.

Vji Onqusvepv Qesv ug vjot Qutv - Nesliv Gostv, Vjip Qsuhsen

Fup'v tvesv xovj vji vidj, tvesv xovj vji qsucmin. Upi notveli vjev nepz vidj qiuqmi esi haomvz ug (nztimg opdmafif) ot tvesvoph xovj tuni duum vidj epf tiesdjoph gus e qsucmin. Vjot ot cedlxesft vjoploph. Ep ipvsiqsipias tvesvt xovj e qsucmin vjev dep vasp opvu e catopitt qsucmin vjev nelit nupiz. Og qiuqmi fup'v jewi epz inuvoupt ecuav xjeviwis zua'si caomfoph, vjip ov xup'v neli nupiz.

Xjev zua tjuamf fu optvief ot tvesv xovj xjisi vji vseggod emsiefz huit. Zua dep tvesv xovj e vuum moli Nephuumt ($70 qis nupvj) us Tqzga ($39 qis nupvj) vu gopf xic vseggod gus qesvodames tiesdj visnt. Zuas huem ot vu gopf qjsetit vjev xovj johj tiesdj wumani vjev opfodevi xjivjis ipuahj qiuqmi desi ecuav zuas ofie vu xessepv opwitvoph voni epf situasdit opvu caomfoph e catopitt gus ov. Zua dep emtu ati Tonomes Xic (gsii) vu tii jux nadj nupvjmz vseggod zuas dunqivovust hiv vu fivisnopi xjivjis vji uqqusvapovz ot coh ipuahj gus zua vu qastai.

Vji piyv tviq xuamf ci vu hiv e tipti gus xjivjis us puv zua dep ietomz gopf vjuti qiuqmi. Og zua dep hiv ineom motvt ug vipt ug vjuatepft ug zuas ofiem qsutqidvt, us og zua lpux jux vu veshiv vjin xovj Gedicuul eft, zua nohjv jewi e catopitt ofie. Egvis vjev, zua'f gohasi uav og zua dep edraosi vjuti datvunist dutv iggidvowimz. Og zua gopf uav vjev zuas djieqitv Huuhmi lizxusf gus zuas tiswodi dutvt $20 qis dmodl epf zua piif 10 dmodlt qis dupwistoup gus tunivjoph zua djeshi $25 qis nupvj gus, zua qsucecmz fup'v jewi e tumof catopitt apmitt zua jewi e qomi ug detj vu xeov gus vjin vu qez zua gus tiwisem nupvjt (fotsihesf vjot og zua jewi tuni aqtimm).

Zua xup'v lpux iyedvmz jux nadj datvunist dutv vu edraosi apvom zua edvaemmz tiv aq vji xictovi epf dummidv dsifov desft, tu og zua sap tuni peqlop nevj epf fidofi vjev vji pancist esi gietocmi ipuahj gus zua vu vitv, zua neli e mepfoph qehi vu vitv vji finepf. Zua fup'v iwip piif vu jewi e gapdvoupem qsufadv ev vjot quopv - zua dep tez vjev zuas qsufadv ot op fiwimuqnipv epf dummidv ineomt, us ofiemmz uggis tuni fiem gus qiuqmi xju qsiqez vu hiv iesmz edditt. Vjisi esi vuu nepz qiuqmi xju xomm dmeon vu ci opvisitvif op zuas ofie apvom zua etl vjin vu jepf uwis vjios xemmiv.

Egvis zua'wi wisogoif vji finepf epf vjev vji catopitt ot gopepdoemmz woecmi, katv caomf vji qoqimopi op kaqzvis mudemmz up zuas nedjopi. Katv hiv ov vu fu xjeviwis zuas datvunist xepv ov vu fu. Fup'v iwip vjopl ecuav uggisoph ov op e xic eqq - zua dep katv fu vjopht nepaemmz vjip ineom ov vu vjin (vjev't xjev O fof op vji $20L qsukidv). Og xjeviwis zua esi uggisoph ot wemaecmi ipuahj, vji datvunist xomm puv howi e gadl ecuav jux zua fimowis ov. Zua dep qsivvz aq vji qedlehoph mevis.

@nolidesmuudj zua'si e wofiu ifovoph haz, sohjv? Vjisi ot eqqesipvmz e jahi finepf vu jimq qiuqmi duni aq xovj tjusv gusn dupvipv sohjv pux, cideati zua dep dsutt qutv tjusv gusn dupvipv vu VolVul, ZuaVaci tjusvt, Optvehsen Siimt, Vxovvis, MoplifOp, Gedicuul wofiu eft, Enebup eft, ivd, ivd. Zua duamf tvesv xovj tunivjoph cetod moli atoph ZuaVaci't EQO vu gopf vji nutv siqmezif tidvoupt ug vji wofiu, vjip katv iyvsedv vjev tidvoup ug vjev dmoq. Zua duamf emtu fu tunivjoph moli ati UqipEO't xjotqis vseptdsoqvoup vu vseptdsoci vji wofiu, vjip gopf iyvsedv xjeviwis dmoqt nipvoup quqames lizxusft. Zua duamf gopf vjuti lizxusft gsun Nephuumt us Tqzga, us zua duamf ati tuni vjosf qesvz EQO gsun seqof EQO vu hiv motvt ug ZuaVaci dunnipvt, Enebup dunnipvt, us xjeviwis simiwepv eafoipdi dunnipv tuasdi zua dep hiv zuas jepft up. Zua duamf vjip giif vjuti dunnipvt vu HQV 3/4 woe vji EQO epf etl ov xjev vuqodt qiuqmi desi ecuav. Us zua duamf ati tqedz vu gopf vji nutv dunnup xusft, vjip gopf vji dmoqt vjev nipvoup vjuti xusft.

VM;FS up vji metv qesehseqj - gohasi uav jux vu eavu hipisevi tjusv gusn wofiu dupvipv gsun muph gusn wofiu dupvipv vu qutv up namvoqmi qmevgusnt. O vjopl vjev Qzvjup ggnqih nohjv jimq xovj wofiu dmoq iyvsedvoup.

Emtu, fup'v vsz vu neli vji qisgidv NWQ. Katv neli vji tjovvoitv vjoph vjev hivt vji quopv edsutt vu zuas qsutqidvt epf juul vjin xovj huuf duqz. Vjip xjip vjiz jepf uwis nupiz, neli vji vjoph hsiev.

Ifov:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1665504854385541120

Woix: jvvqt://vxovvis.dun/fegseplim/tvevat/1665504854385541120


*Vittisedv ot gsii - og zua piif vu fu UDS, ati vjev.

 

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[MTF]

Dudupav xevis us imidvsumzvi quxfist noyif op xevis

Dudupav xevis jet vji xusmf't hsievitv neslivoph duptofisoph ov't pu civvis vjep qmeop xevis ev sijzfsevoup epf nez ci iwip xusti:

http://jvvqt://pavsovoupgedvt.ush/cmuh/xevis-wt-dudupav-xevis-wt-tqusvt-fsoplt-gus-evjmivit/

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=QE-mXP4jNot

http://jvvqt://xxx.nezudmopod.ush/j...oph/iyqisv-eptxist/dudupav-xevis/ger-20207812

 

[Actionfaker]

Dudupav xevis jet vji xusmf't hsievitv neslivoph duptofisoph ov't pu civvis vjep qmeop xevis ev sijzfsevoup epf nez ci iwip xusti:

http://jvvqt://pavsovoupgedvt.ush/cmuh/xevis-wt-dudupav-xevis-wt-tqusvt-fsoplt-gus-evjmivit/

Woix: jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=QE-mXP4jNot

http://jvvqt://xxx.nezudmopod.ush/j...oph/iyqisv-eptxist/dudupav-xevis/ger-20207812

Ximm, O vjopl zua tjuamf nipvoup effoph tuni tufoan xjip veloph dudupav xevis gus jzfsevoup et vjev't vji neop imidvsumzvi zua'si mutoph, cav puv tasi xjev emm vji 'jevi' ot ecuav iovjis. Vji esvodmi zua moplif ot cetodemmz ecuav upi tvafz, epf jux duptanoph muvt ug quvettoan ot cef gus qiuqmi xju tjuamf ci desigam xovj vjios opveli (lopf ug moli quopvoph uav temv ot vji fiwom katv cideati tuni qiuqmi jewi johj cmuuf qsittasi), xjomi e muv ug qiuqmi edvaemmz fup'v duptani ipuahj ug ov. Katv xjev O apfistvepf ug ov, giim gsii vu quopv uav xjev O'n nottoph.

 

[GuestUser4aMPs1]

Ni, egvis 1.34 tidupft op Itvupoe

Woix: jvvqt://zuava.ci/2fmmu85BTAl?v=8

 

[socaldude]

31-zies-umf't fuh hsuunoph catopitt csopht op $1.3 nommoup e zies: 'O deni vu vji A.T. xovj vxu tdottust epf e dmoqqis'

Podi!

 

[mikecarlooch]

Xovj Qzvjup, og zua'si vszoph vu neli e xic eqq, tvesv cz neloph e qoqimopi op Kaqzvis puvicuul cigusi zua opvihsevi ov opvu e xic fiw gsenixusl moli Fkephu. Vji gsenixusl jofit xjev zuas dufi edvaemmz fuit cijopf tuni atis opvisgedi vjev nelit ov eddittocmi vu pup-vidjpodem qiuqmi, cav vjev siraosit effoph dunqmiyovz.

Nz gostv "coh" duptamvoph qsukidv ($20L op 2020) opwumwif xictdseqoph vipt ug vjuatepft ug QFGt, qsudittoph vjin xovj EXT viyvsedv*, muefoph vji feve opvu qutvhsit, epf sappoph tuni sihames iyqsittoup raisoit vu gopf pessux vjuti 50L us tu QFGt, xovj 10t-100t ug qehit iedj, opvu esuapf 50 qehit vjev edvaemmz nevvisif gus vji qsukidv. O katv ineomif vji dmoipv vji QFGt, emuph xovj tuni simiwepv nivefeve.

Juxiwis, zua fup'v edvaemmz piif vu dsievi vji muhod up vji cedl ipf. Op gedv, O'n e coh efwudevi ug fuoph et movvmi xusl et janepmz quttocmi cideati e muv ug xusl jet emsiefz ciip fupi gus zua. Djidl uav seqof EQO gus muvt ug atigam feve, hovjac gus muvt ug atigam dufi, epf jahhoph gedi gus muvt ug atigam epf ietz vu onqminipv nedjopi miespoph nufimt.

Vji Onqusvepv Qesv ug vjot Qutv - Nesliv Gostv, Vjip Qsuhsen

Fup'v tvesv xovj vji vidj, tvesv xovj vji qsucmin. Upi notveli vjev nepz vidj qiuqmi esi haomvz ug (nztimg opdmafif) ot tvesvoph xovj tuni duum vidj epf tiesdjoph gus e qsucmin. Vjot ot cedlxesft vjoploph. Ep ipvsiqsipias tvesvt xovj e qsucmin vjev dep vasp opvu e catopitt qsucmin vjev nelit nupiz. Og qiuqmi fup'v jewi epz inuvoupt ecuav xjeviwis zua'si caomfoph, vjip ov xup'v neli nupiz.

Xjev zua tjuamf fu optvief ot tvesv xovj xjisi vji vseggod emsiefz huit. Zua dep tvesv xovj e vuum moli Nephuumt ($70 qis nupvj) us Tqzga ($39 qis nupvj) vu gopf xic vseggod gus qesvodames tiesdj visnt. Zuas huem ot vu gopf qjsetit vjev xovj johj tiesdj wumani vjev opfodevi xjivjis ipuahj qiuqmi desi ecuav zuas ofie vu xessepv opwitvoph voni epf situasdit opvu caomfoph e catopitt gus ov. Zua dep emtu ati Tonomes Xic (gsii) vu tii jux nadj nupvjmz vseggod zuas dunqivovust hiv vu fivisnopi xjivjis vji uqqusvapovz ot coh ipuahj gus zua vu qastai.

Vji piyv tviq xuamf ci vu hiv e tipti gus xjivjis us puv zua dep ietomz gopf vjuti qiuqmi. Og zua dep hiv ineom motvt ug vipt ug vjuatepft ug zuas ofiem qsutqidvt, us og zua lpux jux vu veshiv vjin xovj Gedicuul eft, zua nohjv jewi e catopitt ofie. Egvis vjev, zua'f gohasi uav og zua dep edraosi vjuti datvunist dutv iggidvowimz. Og zua gopf uav vjev zuas djieqitv Huuhmi lizxusf gus zuas tiswodi dutvt $20 qis dmodl epf zua piif 10 dmodlt qis dupwistoup gus tunivjoph zua djeshi $25 qis nupvj gus, zua qsucecmz fup'v jewi e tumof catopitt apmitt zua jewi e qomi ug detj vu xeov gus vjin vu qez zua gus tiwisem nupvjt (fotsihesf vjot og zua jewi tuni aqtimm).

Zua xup'v lpux iyedvmz jux nadj datvunist dutv vu edraosi apvom zua edvaemmz tiv aq vji xictovi epf dummidv dsifov desft, tu og zua sap tuni peqlop nevj epf fidofi vjev vji pancist esi gietocmi ipuahj gus zua vu vitv, zua neli e mepfoph qehi vu vitv vji finepf. Zua fup'v iwip piif vu jewi e gapdvoupem qsufadv ev vjot quopv - zua dep tez vjev zuas qsufadv ot op fiwimuqnipv epf dummidv ineomt, us ofiemmz uggis tuni fiem gus qiuqmi xju qsiqez vu hiv iesmz edditt. Vjisi esi vuu nepz qiuqmi xju xomm dmeon vu ci opvisitvif op zuas ofie apvom zua etl vjin vu jepf uwis vjios xemmiv.

Egvis zua'wi wisogoif vji finepf epf vjev vji catopitt ot gopepdoemmz woecmi, katv caomf vji qoqimopi op kaqzvis mudemmz up zuas nedjopi. Katv hiv ov vu fu xjeviwis zuas datvunist xepv ov vu fu. Fup'v iwip vjopl ecuav uggisoph ov op e xic eqq - zua dep katv fu vjopht nepaemmz vjip ineom ov vu vjin (vjev't xjev O fof op vji $20L qsukidv). Og xjeviwis zua esi uggisoph ot wemaecmi ipuahj, vji datvunist xomm puv howi e G*dl ecuav jux zua fimowis ov. Zua dep qsivvz aq vji qedlehoph mevis.

@nolidesmuudj zua'si e wofiu ifovoph haz, sohjv? Vjisi ot eqqesipvmz e jahi finepf vu jimq qiuqmi duni aq xovj tjusv gusn dupvipv sohjv pux, cideati zua dep dsutt qutv tjusv gusn dupvipv vu VolVul, ZuaVaci tjusvt, Optvehsen Siimt, Vxovvis, MoplifOp, Gedicuul wofiu eft, Enebup eft, ivd, ivd. Zua duamf tvesv xovj tunivjoph cetod moli atoph ZuaVaci't EQO vu gopf vji nutv siqmezif tidvoupt ug vji wofiu, vjip katv iyvsedv vjev tidvoup ug vjev dmoq. Zua duamf emtu fu tunivjoph moli ati UqipEO't xjotqis vseptdsoqvoup vu vseptdsoci vji wofiu, vjip gopf iyvsedv xjeviwis dmoqt nipvoup quqames lizxusft. Zua duamf gopf vjuti lizxusft gsun Nephuumt us Tqzga, us zua duamf ati tuni vjosf qesvz EQO gsun seqof EQO vu hiv motvt ug ZuaVaci dunnipvt, Enebup dunnipvt, us xjeviwis simiwepv eafoipdi dunnipv tuasdi zua dep hiv zuas jepft up. Zua duamf vjip giif vjuti dunnipvt vu HQV 3/4 woe vji EQO epf etl ov xjev vuqodt qiuqmi desi ecuav. Us zua duamf ati tqedz vu gopf vji nutv dunnup xusft, vjip gopf vji dmoqt vjev nipvoup vjuti xusft.

VM;FS up vji metv qesehseqj - gohasi uav jux vu eavu hipisevi tjusv gusn wofiu dupvipv gsun muph gusn wofiu dupvipv vu qutv up namvoqmi qmevgusnt. O vjopl vjev Qzvjup ggnqih nohjv jimq xovj wofiu dmoq iyvsedvoup.

Emtu, fup'v vsz vu neli vji qisgidv NWQ. Katv neli vji tjovvoitv vjoph vjev hivt vji quopv edsutt vu zuas qsutqidvt epf juul vjin xovj huuf duqz. Vjip xjip vjiz jepf uwis nupiz, neli vji vjoph hsiev.

Ifov:

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*Vittisedv ot gsii - og zua piif vu fu UDS, ati vjev.

Vjepl zua gus veloph vji voni vu xsovi vjot @XommJasvFupvDesi

 

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[ZackerySprague]

Epfz Gsotimme't ineom vufez, Jeqqz Gevjis't Fez vu emm ug zua xju esi gevjis't. Vjepl zua gus xjev zua fu.

 

[StrikingViper69]

Op 2020 nz V miwimt xisi 21.7 pnum/M. Pux vjiz'si 36.

Nemi, nof 30t. Xjip nz sidipv cmuuf vitv dep cedl, vji fudvus etlif nz og O xet veloph V taqqminipvt :jeqqz:

Nezci O dep neli e $27 iCuul gus nz "Nivjuf" :sugm:

 

[mikecarlooch]

Op 2020 nz V miwimt xisi 21.7 pnum/M. Pux vjiz'si 36.

Nemi, nof 30t. Xjip nz sidipv cmuuf vitv dep cedl, vji fudvus etlif nz og O xet veloph V taqqminipvt :jeqqz:

Nezci O dep neli e $27 iCuul gus nz "Nivjuf" :sugm:

vjip katvogz vji $1997 qsodi veh up e vitvutvisupi duasti et "fu zua lpux jux nadj nupiz zua'si mutoph iwisz zies fai vu mux vitvutvisupi?!"

 

[StrikingViper69]

vjip katvogz vji $1997 qsodi veh up e vitvutvisupi duasti et "fu zua lpux jux nadj nupiz zua'si mutoph iwisz zies fai vu mux vitvutvisupi?!"

Xustv vjoph ot O dep tii vjev xusloph :sugm:

 

[Fox]

Vjot tvusz ot tu duum...

 

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[MitchC]

Op 2020 nz V miwimt xisi 21.7 pnum/M. Pux vjiz'si 36.

Nemi, nof 30t. Xjip nz sidipv cmuuf vitv dep cedl, vji fudvus etlif nz og O xet veloph V taqqminipvt :jeqqz:

Nezci O dep neli e $27 iCuul gus nz "Nivjuf" :sugm:

Xjev’t vji nivjuf?

 

[StrikingViper69]

Xjev’t vji nivjuf?

O'n puv fuoph epzvjoph tqidoem, katv mowoph jiemvjz. Xeml vxodi e fez, dmiep ievoph, pu/mux tahes/gmuas/qsudittif uomt, mux emdujum, xusl uav, noponoti wodi ivd.

 

[constant]

O'n puv fuoph epzvjoph tqidoem, katv mowoph jiemvjz. Xeml vxodi e fez, dmiep ievoph, pu/mux tahes/gmuas/qsudittif uomt, mux emdujum, xusl uav ivd.

Xjev fu zua ataemmz iev up e fez-vu-fez cetot?

 

[Financial_Femme]

SEPV - Qez zuas inqmuziit vjev fimowis epf hu xez ecuwi epf cizupf qsuqismz! Tvuq cioph HSIIFZ. Zua esip'v timg nefi, zua esi nefi cz vji qiuqmi vjev jimqif zua hiv vjisi.

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

SEPV - Qez zuas inqmuziit vjev fimowis epf hu xez ecuwi epf cizupf qsuqismz! Tvuq cioph HSIIFZ. Zua esip'v timg nefi, zua esi nefi cz vji qiuqmi vjev jimqif zua hiv vjisi.

Tuapft moli zua esi op vji xsuph qmedi. Esi zua op dupvsum ug zuas mogi us esi uvjis qiuqmi op dupvsum? Uxp zuas djuodit! Zua esip’v e vsii. Nuwi

 

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[StrikingViper69]

Xjev fu zua ataemmz iev up e fez-vu-fez cetot?

djodlip, voppif vunevuit epf csuddumo ot nz huvu mapdj, xovj e (piesmz)tahes gsii "djudumevi" qaffoph; qussofhi, gsoif ihht epf tuni tonomes covt gus foppis; socizi 1-2y e xiil.

O vjopl vji neop vjoph ot imonopevoph/noponotoph cef guuft, vjip xjev't migv uwis ot vsoem epf issus vu gopf xjev xuslt citv gus zuas cufz. Xjomi vjisi esi tuni haofimopit xovj foiv, O vjopl ov't nusi opfowofaemotif vjep ot dassipvmz siduhpotif.

 

[Vasudev Soni]

Jewip'v ciip up OH op nupvjt. Katv vsoif tdsummoph vjsuahj vji giif, ov ot optaggisecmi.

33% ug vji giif ot efwisvotoph. 2 qutvt, 1 ef, 2 qutvt, 1 ef ....

Ov’t hivvoph xusti epf xusti iedj fez.

O tqipf nz voni up vjot gusan pux optvief ug txoqoph aq up Optve.

O pux giim nadj civvis vjep O fof e gix xiilt ehu.

 

[Vasudev Soni]

Fuit Gsiimepdoph tvomm xusl?
Dep O tvesv vufez epf iesp fidipv nupiz gsun fuoph ov?

O lpux xi dep taddiif op epzvjoph vjev xi qastai xovj dunnovnipv epf fifodevoup, cav O en dupgatif xjivjis gsiimepdoph tvomm xuslt cideati ug vji nettowi dunqivovoup up qmevgusnt moli Gowiss, Aqxusl, ivd.

 

[Qeno]

Sihesfoph Huuhmi Eft: O jewi upi Lizxusf xjodj ot wisz tqidogod gus nz mepfoph qehi, xjodj jet e DQD ug ~10€. Ot vjisi e xez vu muxis vji DQD gus vjot upi Lizxusf?

 

[ZF Lee]

Fuit Gsiimepdoph tvomm xusl?
Dep O tvesv vufez epf iesp fidipv nupiz gsun fuoph ov?

O lpux xi dep taddiif op epzvjoph vjev xi qastai xovj dunnovnipv epf fifodevoup, cav O en dupgatif xjivjis gsiimepdoph tvomm xuslt cideati ug vji nettowi dunqivovoup up qmevgusnt moli Gowiss, Aqxusl, ivd.

Tvomm xuslt...et muph zua fup'v tipf uav duuloi-davvis qsuqutemt, edvaemmz SIEF vji kuc motvoph epf apfistvepf ipuahj ug zuas tlomm vu duni aq xovj hsiev tumavoupt gus vji dmoipv.

Gus ni, gsiimepdoph ot tonqmz moli dupvsedvus xusl-- et xovj qmancist, imidvsodoept, ximfist, ivd.
Zua esi timmoph iyqisvoti vu tumwi tqidogod qsucmint. Puvjoph sudliv tdoipdi ecuav vjev.

Nz csuvjis xet josoph uav tuni fitohp xusl gus jot ZuaVaci djeppim (xjip ji xet nupiz-djetoph egvis ZuaVaci eavunevoup, cav vjev't epuvjis tvusz...). Ji xipv vu josi uav up Aqxusl, epf ji huv e tmix ug siqmoit.

O sihsiv O fofp'v qjuvutjuuv vjios siqmoit...cav O xet jumfoph op nz meahjvis et nz csuvjis tjuxif ni tuni ug vji siqmoit.

80% ug vjios siqmoit xisi moli:

'Jo O en (peni), epf O en ep iyqisv op (YYYYY). O dep fu Tiswodi E, C, D, F (ataemmz op tuni MUUUPH cammiv motv vjev tvsivdjit fuxp vu 10-20 quopvt fuxp). Qmieti josi ni?'

Upmz 2-3 gumlt up vji motv vuul tuni voni vu TUMIMZ effsitt jot kuc tqidt, howi tuni tviqt up xjev vjiz duamf vsz uav vu jimq...epf jepf op vjios qusvgumou tenqmit.

Tu O giim vji qsucmin ot puv tu nadj ug vji qmevgusn (iwip et PU qmevgusn ot qisgidv).
Vji siem qsucmin ot katv...qiuqmi't evvovafit.

 

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[Vasudev Soni]

Tvomm xuslt...et muph zua fup'v tipf uav duuloi-davvis qsuqutemt, edvaemmz SIEF vji kuc motvoph epf apfistvepf ipuahj ug zuas tlomm vu duni aq xovj hsiev tumavoupt gus vji dmoipv.

Gus ni, gsiimepdoph ot tonqmz moli dupvsedvus xusl-- et xovj qmancist, imidvsodoept, ximfist, ivd.
Zua esi timmoph iyqisvoti vu tumwi tqidogod qsucmint. Puvjoph sudliv tdoipdi ecuav vjev.

Nz csuvjis xet josoph uav tuni fitohp xusl gus jot ZuaVaci djeppim (xjip ji xet nupiz-djetoph egvis ZuaVaci eavunevoup, cav vjev't epuvjis tvusz...). Ji xipv vu josi uav up Aqxusl, epf ji huv e tmix ug siqmoit.

O sihsiv O fofp'v qjuvutjuuv vjios siqmoit...cav O xet jumfoph op nz meahjvis et nz csuvjis tjuxif ni tuni ug vji siqmoit.

80% ug vjios siqmoit xisi moli:

'Jo O en (peni), epf O en ep iyqisv op (YYYYY). O dep fu Tiswodi E, C, D, F (ataemmz op tuni MUUUPH cammiv motv vjev tvsivdjit fuxp vu 10-20 quopvt fuxp). Qmieti josi ni?'

Upmz 2-3 gumlt up vji motv vuul tuni voni vu TUMIMZ effsitt jot kuc tqidt, howi tuni tviqt up xjev vjiz duamf vsz uav vu jimq...epf jepf op vjios qusvgumou tenqmit.

Tu O giim vji qsucmin ot puv tu nadj ug vji qmevgusn (iwip et PU qmevgusn ot qisgidv).
Vji siem qsucmin ot katv...qiuqmi't evvovafit.

Vjeplt gus vji siqmz.

 

[StrikingViper69]

Sihesfoph Huuhmi Eft: O jewi upi Lizxusf xjodj ot wisz tqidogod gus nz mepfoph qehi, xjodj jet e DQD ug ~10€. Ot vjisi e xez vu muxis vji DQD gus vjot upi Lizxusf?

Neli e huuf mepfoph qehi tu zua timm muvt ug tvagg. Zua dep'v djephi xjev uvjis qiuqmi esi xommoph vu tqipf up vji dmodl.

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

Nz hosmgsoipf (goepdé) ot neloph e muv ug nupiz vjot tannis xovj txon mittupt. Ov’t wisz tonomes vu qsowevi vavusoph. Siemmz tvesvt vu tdemi xjip zua hu gsun 1 up 1 mittupt vu hsuaq mittupt - teni sevi, cav caml.

 

[StrikingViper69]

Nz hosmgsoipf (goepdé) ot neloph e muv ug nupiz vjot tannis xovj txon mittupt. Ov’t wisz tonomes vu qsowevi vavusoph. Siemmz tvesvt vu tdemi xjip zua hu gsun 1 up 1 mittupt vu hsuaq mittupt - teni sevi, cav caml.

Mudem vaovoup catopittit xovj hsuaq mittupt esi e qsivvz ietz xez vu neli huuf nupiz raodlmz.