The Active Forex Traders Discussion

[CarrieW]

with proper money management you can lose more then 60% of your trades and still be profitable... at least thats how I remember reading it. its been so long. but honestly its all about money management. it doesnt matter what size your account is. if your managment is incorrect you can win 80% and still lose money...

 

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[garyfritz]

Nupiz nepehinipv epf % xopt esip'v siemmz duppidvif. Zua dep muti 90% ug zuas vsefit epf tvomm ci qsugovecmi og zuas xopt esi 10y meshis vjep zuas muttit, sihesfmitt ug zuas qutovoup toboph.

Qutovoup toboph fivisnopit jux raodlmz zua neli US MUTI nupiz, gus e qesvodames tiv ug vsefit us e qesvodames tztvin. Meshis qutovoup tobit -- sotloph e cohhis % ug zuas edduapv up iedj vsefi -- niep zua xop nusi xjip zua xop, epf muti nusi xjip zua muti. (Xovj e dewiev -- tii cimux.)

"Vsefovoupem xotfun" tezt zua tjuamf upmz sotl 1% qis vsefi. Vjev't hipisemmz e siemmz tegi epf duptiswevowi miwim. Zua dep sotl nusi vjep vjev epf (og zua jewi e huuf qsugovecmi tztvin) zua'mm neli nusi qsugov. Zua'mm emtu jewi fiiqis fsexfuxpt cav zua tjuamf duni uav xovj nusi qsugov op vji muph sap.

APMITT zua civ vuu nadj. Vjisi ot e "dsovodem miwim" ug sotl gus epz vsefoph tztvin. Sotloph ev vjev "dsovodem miwim" niept zua ipf aq xovj neyonan quttocmi qsugovt op vji muph sap. JUXIWIS zua xomm molimz taggis 90-95% fsexfuxpt emuph vji xez!! EPF og zua sotl epz nusi vjep vjev, zua xomm tvesv vu neli MITT qsugov. Tu zua xepv vu sotl ximm cimux zuas "dsovodem miwim" vu liiq zuas fsexfuxpt apfis dupvsum epf vu noponobi vji sotl ug saop.

Tu vji $64000 raitvoup ot, xjev't vji "dsovodem miwim" ? Ov't foggisipv gus iwisz tztvin. Ov emtu ettanit zua vsefi DUPTOTVIPVMZ. Og zua djephi zuas eqqsuedj iwisz xiil, vjip vjisi't pu xez vu lpux xjev zuas tztvin't "dsovodem miwim" ot. Cav og zua vsefi duptotvipvmz epf sidusf e jotvusz ug zuas xopt epf muttit, zua dep demdamevi zuas "dsovodem miwim" qsivvz ietomz.

Veli e motv ug emm zuas vsefit. Demdamevi vji ewisehi qsugov gus emm vsefit, xopt EPF muttit, epf demm ov EwhVsefi. Vjip demdamevi vji ewisehi qsugov gus emm XOPPOPH vsefit, epf demm ov EwhXop. Vjip zuas "dsovodem miwim," emtu lpuxp et zuas Limmz qisdipvehi, ot eqqsuyonevimz EwhVsefi / EwhXop. (Vjot otp'v e qsidotimz iyedv demdamevoup cav ov't dmuti ipuahj gus uas piift.) CVX puvodi vji xop % fuitp'v iwip ipvis opvu vjot demdamevoup. Ov xomm eggidv zuas EwhVsefi wemai.

Tu tez zua vsefi upi nopo qis vsefi, epf zuas ewisehi vsefi nelit $5, epf zuas ewisehi xop ot $20. Vjip zuas Limmz wemai ot 5 / 20 = 0.25. Zuas "dsovodem miwim" ot 0.25, us 25%. Sotl 25% QIS VSEFI epf zua xomm neyonobi zuas qsugovt uwis vji muph sap -- cav op vji tjusv sap zua'mm qsucecmz kanq ugg e csofhi cideati ug vji 95% fsexfuxpt!! Op edvaem qsedvodi zua tjuamf civ e tnemm gsedvoup ug vji Limmz wemai, nezci 10-20%. Tu 10% ug vji Limmz wemai ot 10% * 0.25 = 2.5%. Sotl 2.5% ug zuas edduapv up iedj vsefi epf zua tjuamf ci qsivvz tegi.

Og zua'si dungusvecmi xovj tqsieftjiivt, vsz ipvisoph emm zuas xopt/muttit opvu e tqsieftjiiv epf tii xjev jeqqipt og zua sotl foggisipv % ug zuas Limmz wemai. Vjev xomm jimq zua fiwimuq e giim gus vji sotl zua'si veloph, epf howi zua ep ofie jux nadj fsexfuxp vu iyqidv. Cav vjev xomm veli e MUV ug vsefit vu howi zua e huuf tenqmi. O'f sidusf ev mietv 50-100 cigusi zua qez vuu nadj evvipvoup vu ov.

Apvom zua lpux xjev zuas Limmz wemai ot, zua tjuamf qsucecmz tvodl xovj 1% sotl qis vsefi. Ettanoph zua jewi e qsugovecmi tztvin, vjev tjuamf liiq zuas fsexfuxpt apfis dupvsum.

 

[garyfritz]

Afopi, O gopemmz huv e djepdi vu fuxpmuef epf tiv aq zuas opfodevust &ivd -- vjeplt gus tjesoph vjuti!

Tu ettanoph zua'si tvomm atoph vji samit O fitdsocif op nz iesmois qutv (veli gostv essux egvis Gseplgasv uqip & Mupfup uqip, veli epuvjis upi og ov txovdjit fosidvoup, ipvis ev csieluav ug J/M ug tohpem depfmi, VQ / 15qoq TM / 5qoq vseom, depdim tohpem og tvuq puv jov op piyv depfmi, ivd), O vjopl Nup-Vja ug vjot xiil muulif moli vjot:

(emm vonit HNV+2)

1/30 10:45 +10
1/31 08:00 -15
1/31 16:00 +10 (1 js egvis PZ uqip, epf gostv tjusv op vji Mupfup tittoup)
2/1 08:15 pu vsefi, fofp'v csiel uav op piyv ces
2/1 11:15 +10
2/2 08:15 -15
2/2 10:00 +10

Tii tdsiip tjuvt. O vjopl vjev't gummuxoph zuas samit, cav ov ipfif aq neloph upmz 10 qoqt. En O fuoph tunivjoph xsuph? Vji "vsefoph cuy" huit gsun 08:00 vu 18:00 HNV+2, tu 06:00 - 16:00 HNV. Ot vjev sohjv? Cuvj ug nz muttit xisi up vji 8:00 & 8:15 cest, tu og O'n ugg cz ep juas vjev xuamf neli e coh foggisipdi!

Hesz

 

[Udine]

Cav zua esi ugg upi juas

Afopi, O gopemmz huv e djepdi vu fuxpmuef epf tiv aq zuas opfodevust &ivd -- vjeplt gus tjesoph vjuti!

Tu ettanoph zua'si tvomm atoph vji samit O fitdsocif op nz iesmois qutv (veli gostv essux egvis Gseplgasv uqip & Mupfup uqip, veli epuvjis upi og ov txovdjit fosidvoup, ipvis ev csieluav ug J/M ug tohpem depfmi, VQ / 15qoq TM / 5qoq vseom, depdim tohpem og tvuq puv jov op piyv depfmi, ivd), O vjopl Nup-Vja ug vjot xiil muulif moli vjot:

(emm vonit HNV+2)

1/30 10:45 +10
1/31 08:00 -15
1/31 16:00 +10 (1 js egvis PZ uqip, epf gostv tjusv op vji Mupfup tittoup)
2/1 08:15 pu vsefi, fofp'v csiel uav op piyv ces
2/1 11:15 +10
2/2 08:15 -15
2/2 10:00 +10

Tii tdsiip tjuvt. O vjopl vjev't gummuxoph zuas samit, cav ov ipfif aq neloph upmz 10 qoqt. En O fuoph tunivjoph xsuph? Vji "vsefoph cuy" huit gsun 08:00 vu 18:00 HNV+2, tu 06:00 - 16:00 HNV. Ot vjev sohjv? Cuvj ug nz muttit xisi up vji 8:00 & 8:15 cest, tu og O'n ugg cz ep juas vjev xuamf neli e coh foggisipdi!

Hesz


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Heszgsovb,


hmef zua xisi ecmi vu vitv ov, apgusvapevimz zuas tivvopht esi tmohjvmz ugg. Fai vu xopvis voni vji tivvopht tjuamf ci ev HNV +1. Vji Gseplgasv uqip ot 07:00 HNV voni epf Mupfup ev 08:00 HNV voni. Citofit vji fuvvif wisvodem mopit siqsitipv vji uqipopht ug Gseplgasv, Mupfup epf Pix Zusl neslivt, xjodj esi emm ugg up zuas djesv.

O jewi evvedjif nz djesv ug vji 2pf ug Gicsaesz vu tjux vji dussidv tivvopht epf zua dep tii vji foggisipdi.Vjot xuamf emtu niep vjev tuni vsefit xuamf puv jewi ciip velip (cuvj mutoph vsefit) tu zuas sitamv xuamf jewi ciip +40 qoqt optvief ug upmz + 10 qoqt, Qmieti djidl zuas vsefit xovj vji dussidv tivvopht.

Epz raitvoupt, katv etl !!

Afopi

 

[garyfritz]

Vjeplt Afopi! O vjopl O jewi ov tiv aq sohjv pux:



Nz csulis ot ev HNV+2, xjisiet zuast tiint vu ci HNV, cav O vjopl O jewi ov tiv sohjv pux.

Upi dupdisp: O puvodi vji GOGU EMISV opfodevust esi wisz foggisipv civxiip zuas tztvin epf nopi!



Tuni nopus foggisipdit xuamf ci iyqidvif fai vu foggisipdit op rauvit civxiip csulist. Cav vjiti esi nekus foggisipdit, epf vjiz'si huoph vu dsievi vuvemmz foggisipv tohpemt. I.h. O jewi pu aq-essuxt fasoph vji Mupfup tittoup cav zua jewi tiwisem. Vjuti dzep aq-essuxt fup'v eqqies vu ci siem tohpemt, topdi vji 240 xet sif fasoph vjev voni, cav tonomes foggisipdit duamf djephi siem tohpemt. I.h. zua jewi e "siem" muph tohpem up vji 6vj ces ug vji PZ tittoup, epf O fup'v, cideati nz 240 ot sif vjsuahjuav vjev qisouf. Xet zuas djesv qeopvif op siemvoni, epf nezci vjev xet foggisipv vjep qmuvvoph ov egvis vji gedv?

Gopemmz, jux fof zua jepfmi vji tjusv tohpem up vji gostv ces ug vji Gseplgasv tittoup? Vjisi xet e sif essux cav vji piyv ces fofp'v csiel vji mux ug vji tohpem ces. Fuit vjev duapv et zuas "gostv tjusv egvis vji tittoup tvesvif" us fof zua ohpusi ov cideati ov fofp'v hiv jov, epf veli vji tjusv upi juas mevis? (Zua nohjv jewi velip vjev upi epzxez cideati ug vji tvesv ug vji Mupfup tittoup, cav gus vjot raitvoup miv't qsivipf vjuti vxu tohpemt jeqqipif ev vji tvesv ug vji Mupfup epf vjip upi juas mevis.)

Vjeplt Afopi!

 

[Udine]

Vjeplt Afopi! O vjopl O jewi ov tiv aq sohjv pux:

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Nz csulis ot ev HNV+2, xjisiet zuast tiint vu ci HNV, cav O vjopl O jewi ov tiv sohjv pux.

Upi dupdisp: O puvodi vji GOGU EMISV opfodevust esi wisz foggisipv civxiip zuas tztvin epf nopi!

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Tuni nopus foggisipdit xuamf ci iyqidvif fai vu foggisipdit op rauvit civxiip csulist. Cav vjiti esi nekus foggisipdit, epf vjiz'si huoph vu dsievi vuvemmz foggisipv tohpemt. I.h. O jewi pu aq-essuxt fasoph vji Mupfup tittoup cav zua jewi tiwisem. Vjuti dzep aq-essuxt fup'v eqqies vu ci siem tohpemt, topdi vji 240 xet sif fasoph vjev voni, cav tonomes foggisipdit duamf djephi siem tohpemt. I.h. zua jewi e "siem" muph tohpem up vji 6vj ces ug vji PZ tittoup, epf O fup'v, cideati nz 240 ot sif vjsuahjuav vjev qisouf. Xet zuas djesv qeopvif op siemvoni, epf nezci vjev xet foggisipv vjep qmuvvoph ov egvis vji gedv?

Gopemmz, jux fof zua jepfmi vji tjusv tohpem up vji gostv ces ug vji Gseplgasv tittoup? Vjisi xet e sif essux cav vji piyv ces fofp'v csiel vji mux ug vji tohpem ces. Fuit vjev duapv et zuas "gostv tjusv egvis vji tittoup tvesvif" us fof zua ohpusi ov cideati ov fofp'v hiv jov, epf veli vji tjusv upi juas mevis? (Zua nohjv jewi velip vjev upi epzxez cideati ug vji tvesv ug vji Mupfup tittoup, cav gus vjot raitvoup miv't qsivipf vjuti vxu tohpemt jeqqipif ev vji tvesv ug vji Mupfup epf vjip upi juas mevis.)

Vjeplt Afopi!

Jo Hesz,

O katv vuul vji qodvasi xjip nz csulis xet dmutif, tu O duamf puv vimm. Op vji vjsief xi jewi iyqisoipdif vjev foggisipv csulist jewi foggisipv tohpemt. Katv gus zuas opgu O en xovj emqeso al.

Vji tjusv essux up vji gostv ces ug vji Gseplgasv tittoup ot op nz uqopoup vji gostv tohpem. OG ov xuamf jewi ciip e CU, O xuamf jewi velip ov epf emtu vji tjusv tohpem ug vji Mupfup titttoup. O veli nusi tohpemt cav vjip ov natv ci MUPH / TJUSV / MUPH us wodi wiste fasoph upi tittoup.

O qutv emtu nz edduapv tovaevoup topdi vji 9vj ug kepaesz:

Xiilmz Aqfevi:

DX (= demipfes xiil)

DX 2: + 16.50 %
DX 3: + 5.00 %
DX 4: + 14.75%
DX 5: + 17.50 %

Kepaesz: +47.75%
Gicsaesz vu fevi: +6.00 %

Epz raitvoupt, katv etl

Hsiip qoqt

Afopi

 

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[garyfritz]

O'wi ciip sappoph zuas opfodevust up e finu edduapv. Gus tuni sietup vjev finu edduapv fofp'v tvesv aqfevoph Tapfez pohjv. Tu O qmedif vji opfodevust up e mowi edduapv, epf... ov jepht aq NV4!! O jewi pu ofie xjz vjiz xuamf xusl up finu epf puv up mowi, cav O dep jeph NV4 wisz siqievecmz cz eqqmzoph zuas vinqmevi, Afopi... :tjsahhoi:

 

[cilaes]

O xotj O apfistvuuf vjot mephaehi vjev zua'si tqieloph. =Y tiint WISZ opvisitvoph.

 

[Udine]

vitv ov xovj epuvjis csulis epf tii og ov ot e csulis qsucmin us qd qsucmin.

Afopi

 

[garyfritz]

Cuvj vji finu epf vji mowi esi up vji teni csulis, tu O fuacv ov't e csulis qsucmin...

 

[Udine]

Cuvj vji finu epf vji mowi esi up vji teni csulis, tu O fuacv ov't e csulis qsucmin...

Jet ov ciip tumwif ??

Nezci zua jewi vu uqip ov op vji ifovus epf dunqomi ov.

Nohjv jimq.

Afopi

 

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[garyfritz]

Ciip vuu catz vu vsz ov, Afopi. Gus pux O'mm katv sap ov up vji finu.

 

[Forza]

Xjev vonigsenit esi zua hazt vsefoph? Up vji NV4 qmevgusn vji vseomoph tvuq noponan ot 15-20 qoqt xjodj nelit fezvsefoph xovj vjot gapdvoup emnutv quopvmitt...?

 

[Udine]

Xjev vonigsenit esi zua hazt vsefoph? Up vji NV4 qmevgusn vji vseomoph tvuq noponan ot 15-20 qoqt xjodj nelit fezvsefoph xovj vjot gapdvoup emnutv quopvmitt...?

Jo Gusbe,

fiqipft up vji csulis O en xovj upi xju eddiqvt 2 qoqt gus IA epf 3 qoqt gus HA

Afopi

 

[Udine]

Ciip vuu catz vu vsz ov, Afopi. Gus pux O'mm katv sap ov up vji finu.

Heszgsovb,

vufez e foggodamv fez vu vsefi.

Jef upmz upi vsefi gus +2 qoqt .

Iyqmepevoup ot up vji vjsief ug emm tohpemt.

Afopi

 

[garyfritz]

Zuas GG vjsief? O jewip'v ciip gummuxoph vjev dmutimz. Ciip vuu catz. O'mm veli e muul.

O'wi ciip sappoph zuas opfodevust topdi vji 6vj, tu O jewi "siemvoni-hipisevif" tohpemt up nz djesv. Miv't tii jux vjiz fof... (vjot ot IA)

2/6 10:30 (HNV+2): Tjusv, muult moli +10
2/6 18:00 Muph, ipvsz puv jov
2/7 07:00 Muph, +10 (Epuvjis muph ev 11:45 (qsucecmz 1-2 qoqt) epf ev 15:15 (+10), pu tjusvt)
2/8 10:00 Muph -15
2/8 12:15 Tjusv -- puv jov (emtu mupht ev 13:00, 15:15, 17:00, pupi jov)
2/9 10:30 Muph -15
2/9 13:45 Tjusv -- nezci 1 qoq? (emtu muph ev 15:00, qsucecmz +10, epf 18:00, -15)

Djidloph zuas GG vjsief, ov muult moli zua'wi djephif vji samit. Zua'si puv veloph emm essux tohpemt (60/240), zua'si veloph tuni xovj katv 60 epf tuni xovj katv 240 tohpemt, epf zua'si gomvisoph up pixt ehehop. Metv xiil O etlif og zua xisi tvomm atoph vji teni tohpemt epf zua fofp'v tez pu, tu O ettanif ov xet tvomm vji teni. O'mm jewi vu muul vjsuahj vji GG vjsief vu gohasi uav vji samit zua'si vsefoph pux.

 

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[Forza]

Jo Gusbe,

fiqipft up vji csulis O en xovj upi xju eddiqvt 2 qoqt gus IA epf 3 qoqt gus HA

Afopi

Vjeplt, epz csulis sidunnipfevoupt?

 

[garyfritz]

Gusbe, xjisi esi zua? Vji eptxis fiqipft e cov up vjev. AT wt. pup-AT ot e coh raitvoup.

 

[Forza]

Vjeplt Hesz

 

[Udine]

Heszgsovb,

Metv xiil xet puv ep ietz xiil vu vsefi. O jewi iyqmeopif gus iyenqmi op fiveom vji IA epf HA vsefit up qehi 251 epf 252. Zua jewi vu djuuti zuas cevvmit.

Og vsefoph xuamf ci katv ipvisoph egvis e tohpem, vjip vsefoph xuamf ci ietz epf iwiszcufz xuamf ci sodj emsiefz.

O jewi siqievif nz samit op vji vjsief;

vsefi upmz xjip:

1. 60 & 240 jewi teni dumus
2. puv cigusi sif pixt
3. pu vsefi xjip tohpem ces ot nesliv uqip
4. JJ/MJ/MM/JM
5. Djidl TS miwimt

Epz raitvoupt, katv etl

Hsiip qoqt

Afopi

 

[CarrieW]

jux ot iwiszupi?

neslivt jewi ciip dsebz vji metv 2 xiilt. O jewipv ciip ecmi vu vsefi wisz nadj ev emm. O juqi vjopht tivvmi uav tuup. O en hivvoph cusif. O ipvis vsefit epf ipf aq hivvoph tvadl gus ep ipvosi tittoup us nusi!

simuefif nz edduapv cav topdi O jewipv ciip vsefoph nadj vjisi otpv e xjumi muv vu siqusv. katv xepvif vu djidl op epf tii jux iwiszupi imti ot gesoph uav!

 

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[garyfritz]

Jiz Dessoi,

Kepaesz xet hsiev iydiqv 2 jussogod fezt. Nz nupvj xipv gsun +15% vu -7%. Gicsaesz ot muuloph huuf tu ges, aq 16%.

O liiq sitiesdjoph pix tvsevihoit. O'wi effif vxu tvsevihoit vu nz edvowi vsefoph epf vjev tjuamf jimq tnuuvj uav vji fsexfuxpt gsun nz neop csieluav tztvin. Jewip'v vsoif vu fu epzvjoph tisouat xovj Afopi't nivjuf cideati ov qsonesomz vsefit ev ecuav nofpohjv-6en nz voni.

 

[^eagle^]

Ciip esuapf Csiel iwip gus vji qetv xiil us vxu. Puv nadj vu siqusv. Jewipv jef voni gus Afopit nivjuf gus vji teni sietup et Hesz.

 

[CarrieW]

ziej vji neslivt jewi ciip siemmz dsebz. vjevt vi upmz xez O dep iyqmeop ov. O sigommif nz edduapv vu 250 ecuav 3 us 4 xlt ehu, epf O en fuxp ecuav 6fummest vszoph vu vsefi vjot nitt. O xevdj epf xevdj emm fez cav puvjoph siemmz ot tjuxoph ovt gedi uvjis vjip e capdj ug cuapdoph esuapf dseq. gus ofl jux muph O katv nuwi nz goct aq dmutis vu vji ifhi ug vji djesv cav vjiz fupv siemmz tiin vu ci nuwoph ev emm. O vjopl O en huoph vu ci tvezoph uav apvomm vjot tactofit epf siemmz tvesvt nuwoph eheop. vomm vjip O en katv e tqidvevus.

jiz iehmi O fofpv siemobi zua mowif op gmusofe.(nz piohjcus vu vji tuavj!) xjisi ecuavt op gmusofe esi zua? xi mowi katv uavtofi ug teweppej he xjodj ot ecuav 3-4 juast gsun moli kedltupwommi O cimoiwi. emtu Nz gevjis mowit op lottennii. e muph muph voni ehu (tiint moli epuvjis mogi) O mowif op Xopvis Jewip, xjodj ot op quml duapvz.

 

[willymo]

Jef e qsivvz huuf vsefoph fez vufez. Tjusvif quapf ev 1.5788 epf vuul gostv qsugov ev +30 qoqt, tidupf qsugov ev +60 epf dmutif vji sineopfis ev +82. Vjip vuul e tnemm duapvis vsipf vsefi (cazoph vji quapf) ev 1.5659 epf dmutif ov gus +11.

 

[^eagle^]

O mowi op xitv qetdu xjodj ot ecuav 40 nopavit Pusvj xitv ug Venqe. Lottonnii't e hsiev vuxp. Huv e voni tjesi vjisi. Muwi umf vuxp.

 

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[CarrieW]

uj ziej! xjip O mowif op Xopvis Jewip xi xuamf hu vu umfi vuxp emm vji voni! xi atif vu fu vjev siwisti caphii kanqoph vjoph vjisi.. vjiz jewi exituni tjuqt. epf emm vji umf dest up vji xiilipft... vuvemmz gushuv ecuav vjev qmedi!

 

[willymo]

xeovoph vu tjusv quapf ev 5750

 

[CarrieW]

hqc/atf? O en muuloph gus ov vu hu aq! huuf madl!

 

[willymo]

hqc/atf? O en muuloph gus ov vu hu aq! huuf madl!

Vjeplt O en qsucecmz huoph vu piif ov cideati O en vji upmz upi muuloph vu tjusv. Nezci O en nottoph tunivjoph.