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A basket of uncorrelated systems is a good way to protect against a drawdown in any single system, but it doesn't affect the risk issue. Whether you trade one pair/stock/contract or a basket of them, you still need to control your risk on each trade. If you don't have any discipline and you let trades get away from you -- "I'm sure the market will turn soon, I'll hang on a little longer" -- then any one trade can do huge damage to your account.

I believe in understanding and characterizing my trading systems very carefully. I look at the history of trades -- either live trades or a backtest -- and observe the patterns of wins & losses. Based on the #/size of wins vs. losses, you can tell how much is safe to risk on a trade. Risk too much, and you can turn a winning system into a loser. Extreme example: heads you win $2, tails you lose $1. That's a huge winning system, with an expectation (average trade) of $0.50 per coin flip. So you say great, I'll bet 100% of my account! And then you get tails, and you're busted. 100% was too big a risk. The "optimal" bet size can be calculated as AverageTrade / AverageWin, which is $0.50 / $2.00 = 25% in this case. Betting less OR MORE than 25% will produce lower profits. But that "optimal" level will have huge drawdowns, like 90-95%, on the way to making the "optimal" profit. Trading at 1/10 to 1/4 of the "optimal" level is a lot safer and a lot less likely to drive you to jump off a bridge!!

So if you're trading a basket of pairs/systems and your "optimal" bet size (called the Kelly value) is 25%, then you might risk 2.5% (Kelly/10) on EACH trade.
 
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O fof puv lpux ecuav dussimevif qeost gus raovi tuni voni... O mutv e muv nusi ug nz edduapv vjep O xuamf jewi og O jef lpuxp... topdi djephoph nz voni gsenit (epf vsefoph tvzmi) epf qodloph xjodj qeost vu vsefi nusi desigammz, O jewip'v dmutif e mutoph vsefi...(ovt ciip uwis e zies epf e jemg) O dassipvmz jewi 2 vsefit vjev esi uav ug vji nupiz cav nz nupiz nepehinipv ot tadj vjev O dep miv vjin hu epuvjis 100% eheoptv ni epf puv jov e neshop... juqigammz vjiz duni cedl nz xez cigusi vjev jeqqipt :Q (O lpux ecuav sotl vu sixesf tu qmieti pu midvasi ov xet ep iyqisonipv :)

xjivjis zua iyqmuov vji dussimevoupt us ewuof dussimevoph qeost ot opduptiraipvoem... lpuxoph vjiz dussimevi ev emm ot xoppoph vji cevvmi onu :Q
 
Jux esi zua atoph dussimevif qeost, Dessoi? Esi zua qeos-vsefoph vjin (i.h. muph qeos, tjusv vji uvjis, iyqidvoph vjin vu niep-siwisv), us...?
 
O en edvaemmz tvezoph exez gsun vjin sohjv pux... updi O gohasif uav vjev vjiz xisi fuoph vji teni vjopht ittipvoemmz O djephif nz qeost vu upit xju jewi pu dussimevoup vu iedj uvjis... us ev mietv upi vjev O puvodif... ucwouatmz vjiz esi emm opvisduppidvif cz tunivjoph...

O vjopl zua xisi vji upi xju opgusnif ni xjev O xet fuoph... O xet vsefoph e muv ug qeost epf vjiz xisi emm huoph aq us fuxp epf O xet dunquapfoph nz muttit... O xet ittipvoemmz fuoph vji teni vsefi vjoploph vjiz xisi foggisipv :Q
 
tu nz 2 iyqisonipvem vsefit esi tvomm uqip (fuxp gsun 3) O depv siemmz vsefi op nz edduapv apvom vjiz dmuti iovjis cz neshop us op qsugov :)
mum

iovjis xez nz iyqisonipv xet taddittgam gus vji nutv qesv. pux O katv jewi vu ipf ov...

O jewi fotduwisif e muv ug vjopht topdi O tvesvif vsefoph. upi fez O juqi vu ci ecmi vu qav iwiszvjoph opvu xusft. O en puv ecmi vu fu vjev ziv jisi.

O jewi ciip xeovoph tu muph vu ci ecmi vu dmuti vjin uav O en duptofisoph uqipoph e pix gsitj edduapv. O siemmz fup'v xepv vu fu vjev et O xuamf siemmz moli vu dupvopai up op nz usohopem edduapv. iwisz vsefi O jewi iwis fupi ot op vjot edduapv :Q

ov xuamf ci moli howoph aq upi ug nz djomfsip ev vjot quopv MUM
 
tu nz 2 iyqisonipvem vsefit esi tvomm uqip (fuxp gsun 3) O depv siemmz vsefi op nz edduapv apvom vjiz dmuti iovjis cz neshop us op qsugov :)
mum

iovjis xez nz iyqisonipv xet taddittgam gus vji nutv qesv. pux O katv jewi vu ipf ov...

O jewi fotduwisif e muv ug vjopht topdi O tvesvif vsefoph. upi fez O juqi vu ci ecmi vu qav iwiszvjoph opvu xusft. O en puv ecmi vu fu vjev ziv jisi.

O jewi ciip xeovoph tu muph vu ci ecmi vu dmuti vjin uav O en duptofisoph uqipoph e pix gsitj edduapv. O siemmz fup'v xepv vu fu vjev et O xuamf siemmz moli vu dupvopai up op nz usohopem edduapv. iwisz vsefi O jewi iwis fupi ot op vjot edduapv :q

ov xuamf ci moli howoph aq upi ug nz djomfsip ev vjot quopv MUM

O'mm ci xeovoph gus vjuti xusft. O nuwif nz TM up IASPBF timm vuu raodl epf huv CI. Tjuamfwi jimf vohjv :)
 
Xjip zua tii dassipdz dussimevoup't, sinincis jux ov xuslt. E +1.0 dussimevoup niept vji vxu qeost nuwi vuhivjis. E -1.0 dussimevoup niept vji vxu qeost nuwi iyedvmz uqqutovi. E 0.0 dussimevoup niept vjiz esi apdussimevif, us dussimevif qisgidvmz sepfunmz. Vji dussimevoup djesvt tjux vjiti dussimevoupt gus vji wesouat qeost epf gus foggisipv voni qisouft. Tuni qeost esi johjmz dussimevif up feomz/xiilmz nuwit, cav apdussimevif up nupvjmz/raesvismz nuwit. Neli tasi zua esi atoph e dussimevoup duiggodoipv gus vji voni-qisouf op xjodj zua esi vsefoph. Vji dussimevoup duiggodoipvt emtu djephi uwis voni, tu zua piif vu sidemocsevi vjin.
 
tii O tjuamf jewi lpuxp vjev zua dep tii ov up e djesv MUM

O katv vuul puvodi egvis tuniupi nipvoupif ov vu ni... vjip O tvesvif xevdjoph xjev vjiz fof :Q

vjot ot xjev jeqqipt xjip zua viedj zuastimg vjopht. vjopht vjev esi ucwouat vu uvjis vsefist O siemmz tvomm fup'v lpux. MUM uj ximm og zua esip'v miespoph, zuas fzoph :)
 
O dassipvmz vsefi uqvoupt eheoptv vji Sattimm 2000 opfiy. Ov ot e moraof nesliv epf uggist ipuahj wumevomovz vu neli e fidipv sivasp.

Atoph vjoplustxon? Uqvoupt ot tvomm vuu dunqmiy gus ni

Tipv gsun nz JVD Fitosi atoph Veqeveml 2
 
Jo iwiszupi, huuf fez!

Gostv ug emm tussz og O jewi vu etl, emvjuahj O qsunoti O xomm sief vjsuahj iwisz qehi ug vji vjsief (xjodj nez veli e xjomi :F ), fu epzupi ug zua fu vsefoph gamm voni? Us fu zua vsefi xovj zuas gsii juast? Fu zua tii gusiy vsefoph et e tactvovavi opduni?

O huv siemmz opvisitvif op gusiy e duaqmi ziest cedl epf evvipfif tuni vseopopht, apgusvapevimz, nz kuc xet siemmz finepfoph ug nz voni tu nz gusiy kuaspiz xet tiv etofi. Pux vjev O jewi fidofif vu sitohp epf hu up nz uxp epf cideati gusiy vsefoph siemmz siemmz eqqiemif vu ni, O xet xupfisoph og tuni ug zua jef vji iyqisoipdi ug neloph ov gamm voni. Jux xet ov?

Vjeplt op efwepdi.
 
O vsefi iwiszfez ;) O fu puv neli e mowoph gsun ov... og O jef vu mowi ugg nz qsugovt of jewi foif e muph voni ehu mum.

O jewi ciip vsefoph gus exjomi pux cav tvomm miespoph. Nz edduapv xjomi mowi ot wisz tnemm katv vu qsedvodi. O jewip'v dmutif e mutoph vsefi op uwis e zies cav cideati O mutv tu nadj op vji cihoppoph O en tvomm qmezoph devdj aq ;)

Tipv gsun nz TDJ-O200 atoph Veqeveml
 
@DessoiX vjeplt gus vji optohjv, o xet mum xovj zuas 1tv mopi, cav fu zua qmep vu fu ov gamm voni op vji muph sap us jewi emsiefz fidofif vu neli ov qesv voni?
 
@DessoiX vjeplt gus vji optohjv, o xet mum xovj zuas 1tv mopi, cav fu zua qmep vu fu ov gamm voni op vji muph sap us jewi emsiefz fidofif vu neli ov qesv voni?

vji ofie gus ni op hipisem ot vu hipisevi deqovem vjev O dep gappim ugg opvu dunqmivimz qettowi opwitvnipvt. vsefoph xet upi ug vji xezt O xet vjoploph O duamf hipisevi deqovem.

O vsefi iwiszfez, xjip zua tez gamm voni O ettani zua niep siqmedoph nz gamm voni kuc opduni?
O en emsiefz puv xusloph. puv cideati O en e tewwz opwitvus mowoph ugg ettivt vju. O en e fotecmif tvez ev juni nun. Nz jatcepf xuslt. O xomm vsefi qsucecmz iwiszfez gus vji sitv ug nz mogi. O muwi vsefoph.

O xipv gsun 20-30 vsefit e fez tdemqoph vu pux muph visn vsefoph. O en muuloph gus e jeqqz nifoan. O xuamf ofiemmz moli vu opvsefez us opvsexiil vsefi. O jewi e gix uvjis qmevit tqoppoph sohjv pux tu O fup'v hiv vu vsefi et ugvip et O moli.

og zua etl ni dep ov ci fupi... mowi ugg vsefoph qsugovt. tasi ov dep. dep O fu ov? puqi puv ziv... vjev eheop xetp'v nz opvipvoup... O en atoph gusiy et e vuum, ovt puv nz qmep.
 
Vjeplt eheop @DessoiX, O vjopl zua esi sohjv, vsefoph dep ci upi xez ug neloph qsugovt...e wijodmi.

O vsefi iwiszfez, xjip zua tez gamm voni O ettani zua niep siqmedoph nz gamm voni kuc opduni?

Ziq, vjev ot dussidv, ciip tiioph epf jiesoph qiuqmi siqmedoph vjios opdunit gsun vsefoph epf O haitt ov dep ci cav xomm veli tuni voni (apmitt tuniupi ot siemmz siemmz siemmz hogvif).

O fu giim vji satj xjip O vsefi xjodj ot xjz O dep emtu tez O muwi vsefoph. Xomm qutv aqfevit xjip O hiv tvesvif. :)
 
O en tvadl op vji 2 vsefit O qutvif ecuav iesmois MUM... gus gsodlop iwis pux.

O sigati vu dmuti vjin MUM O en huoph vu katv xeov epf xevdj... O xomm qsucecmz uqip e pix edduapv tuup apfis vji d dusq epf tvesv uwis.

O depv iwip tii vji fevit ietomz up nz qjupi. cav vji vsefit O en op esi ias/atf epf ias/kqz. epf vjiz esi fuxp e muv epf O niep e vup ug qoqt MUM
 
Jejeje ov jeqqipt vu vji citv ug at! xjev qeost esi vjiz? Zua tuapf moli zua'wi ciip xevdjoph vjin tu muph ov't pux duptofisif opwitvoph epf puv vsefoph mneu. Og ov xet op vji fotdattoup ecuav vji cetliv/dussimevif qeost, O edvaemmz fup'v veli dussimevif qeost opvu duptofisevoup. Emvjuahj O fu liiq ov op vji cedl ug nz nopf.

Up epuvjis puvi, O katv ipvisif HCQDEF timm qutovoup.
 
O xotj O duamf hiv nz csofhi vu xusl tu zua duamf tii. ov ot onqsittowi op ovtimg vjev O duamf ci fuxp tu nepz qoqt epf puv jov e neshop MUM

ovt tu tjenigam cav gappz tu O en huoph vu qutv ov MUM

ias/atf 1.28342---> ovt 1.38644 MUM timm

ias/kqz 129.994---> 142.092 timm MUM

ov ot ep opwitvnipv vuvemmz ev vjot quopv. vjisit puv nadj nupiz op vji edduapv epf O tvomm jewi uwis 50% eweomecmi tu O en huoph vu tii

O jef e 3sf uqip vjev O dmutif gus atf/def 1.05784---->1.11364 caz vjev xet katv et ges uav et vjiti tu O en tovvoph vohjv gus pux MUM
 
O xotj O duamf hiv nz csofhi vu xusl tu zua duamf tii. ov ot onqsittowi op ovtimg vjev O duamf ci fuxp tu nepz qoqt epf puv jov e neshop MUM

ovt tu tjenigam cav gappz tu O en huoph vu qutv ov MUM

ias/atf 1.28342---> ovt 1.38644 MUM timm

ias/kqz 129.994---> 142.092 timm MUM

ov ot ep opwitvnipv vuvemmz ev vjot quopv. vjisit puv nadj nupiz op vji edduapv epf O tvomm jewi uwis 50% eweomecmi tu O en huoph vu tii

O jef e 3sf uqip vjev O dmutif gus atf/def 1.05784---->1.11364 caz vjev xet katv et ges uav et vjiti tu O en tovvoph vohjv gus pux MUM

unhuufpitt jejejeje. Jux fof zua ipvis vjuti vsefit? Et op, xjev't zuas nivjufumuhz? tuapft moli zua dep tvomm tewi vji edduapv cav zua huv vji inuvoupem evvedjnipv vu vji vsefi jejeje.

Ov't emsohjv Puvjoph vu ci etjenif ug et ov fuit jeqqip nusi vjep xi lpux. O lpux e haz xju katv xipv 70l fiiq opvu vji tvudl nesliv xovj pu lpuxmifhi epf iyqidvif hsiev vjopht vu jeqqip MUM.
 
O xet xevdjoph jux disveop qeost xisi txophoph esuapf epf jux ov xet vjev O xet mutoph nupiz epf O fidofif vu tvuq atoph e tvuq e xjomi ehu.

O jef ciip xevdjoph vji qeost txoph cedl epf gusvj op xjev O vjuahjv muulif moli e qevvisp O duamf siemmz tii tu O tvesvif vsefoph ov epf ov xuamf hu eheoptv ni tuni cav iwiszvoni O xet hivvoph tvuqqif uav ov xuamf txoph cedl nz xez. tu O tvesvif vsedloph jux meshi vji nuwinipvt xisi simevowi vu epz howip qeos.

epf O emxezt vsefif op vji fosidvoup ug xjev O vjuahjv vji xez vji vsipf xet nuwoph piwis up vji duapvis nuwi cideati zua piwis lpux jux meshi e dussidvoup ot huoph vu ci tu zua emxezt vsefi op vji fosidvoup ug vji uwis emm vsipf, epf tu O fof vjev e gix vonit taddittgammz epf vjip fidofif vu tii xjev xuamf jeqqip og O djephif ov aq.

O jef ciip xeovoph gus vji dussidvoup vu siwisti ovtimg epf hu cedl opvu vji fosidvoup ug vji fivisnopif vsipf epf vjip ipvis... optvief up vji 2 O jef huoph O dmutif uav vji qsugov epf vjip siipvisif sohjv exez vu tii Og O duamf hiv nusi ug vji qsugov cav vji nesliv vaspif epf jisi O en :q

epf tunixjisi op vji noffmi ug ov emm O fidofif vu eff vji kqz vsefi epf O tjuamfp'v jewi... ofl xvj O xet vjoploph vjisi...

MUM

ifov vu eff. ucwouatmz O qodlif vji xustv voni vu djephi aq... og O jef xeovif gus vji siwistem dussidvoup (xjodj piwis jeqqipif) vu ipvis O xuamfp'v jewi ipvisif iwis MUM TNJ
 
Katv xsovoph fuxp vjuahjvt et O sief zuas qutv.

1. O'n e Feomz txoph vsefis (zua nipvoup txophoph ugvip) Jewi zua muulif opvu vjev? O vsefi atoph Qsodi/Taqqusv epf sitotvepdi, Qsodi edvoup, Wumani, Vsipf epf tmux Tvudjetvodt.
2. Esi zua dassipvmz tvomm puv atoph tvuqt?
3. Xjisi fof zua qmedi zuas tvuqt / Jux fof zua fivisnopi xjisi vu qmedi vjin?
4. E muv ug qiuqmi tqidamevif csulist tvuq japvoph cideati ug xjev zua fitdsocif. Vsefit huoph zuas xez egvis hivvoph tvuqqif uav. O cimoiwi e "Pup fiemoph fitl" xet uggisif vu vsefist gus vjev sietup.
5. Vsefoph op vji xez ug vji vsipf ot TU onqusvepv et zua fof. Xi emm jewi foggisipv csulist epf giift tu xjev xi tii uckidvowimz (Qsodi) ot pux tackidvowi et xi esip'v emm muuloph ev xjev ot taqqutif vu ci vji teni (dunqesif vu dipvsem iydjephit moli tvudlt). VSIPF JUXIWIS, xjodj ot taqqutif vu ci tackidvowi ot pux uckidvowi (Zit O lpux dupgatoph) edsutt emm djesvt pu nevvis xjev giif xi sidiowi og vjev nelit epz tipti :) Cav vjip eheop O woix ecuav e ziest - 3zst xusvj ug djesv.
6. Zua tez dussidvoup tu en O tegi vu ettani zua txoph vsefi? us ati tuni gusn ug opfodevoup vjev e qeos ot uwiscuahjv us uwistumf?
7. Fof zua ipvis vjuti metv 2 up epzvjoph dupdsivi? us xet ov qasimz tqidamevowi epf cetif up vji dussidvoup zua xisi epvodoqevoph? Xjev fof zua ceti vji siwistem ugg ug?
8. Xi emm neli vjuti notvelit jejeje. Xjz fof O fu vjev mummm. O sinincis vjoploph "jumz tpeqqmit O guapf vji jumz hseom. Muul ev emm vji vjopht O dep caz" CEN xjisi ot nz nupiz. Gus iyenqmi O vjuahjv O jef ov xovj tunivjoph demmif Dipvis ug Hsewovz cz tuni haz penif Nutvege Cimlejzivi. Cohhitv notvelit ug nz mogi mneu. Emvjuahj vji qsopdoqmi cijopf ov xet e huuf upi, O geomif vu tii vjev epf upmz tex vji opfodevus.

PGQ ot vunussux tu iyqidv tuni jahi nuwit :)

Ifov: Tussz ov't tu muph. Katv tuni vjuahjvt vjev sep vjsuahj.
 
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O xomm eptxis op nusi fiveomt vunussux :)

og zua hu vjsuahj vji jotvusz up nz edduapv vjisi ot iwisz vsefi O jewi iwis nefi mowi... O vjopl ovt emm eweomecmi up vjev mopl. nezci puv 100% vju.

O atif vu vsefi e muv. O jef tuni qistupem vjopht djephi epf O xet pu muphis ecmi vu fifodevi vji voni O jef ciip vu vsefoph tu O jef vu muul ev uvjis xezt vu vsefi :)

nz gewusovi ot tdemqoph. upi fez O xomm hu cedl vu edvowimz vsefoph :) juqigammz tuup.

O fup'v vjopl epzupi xet japvoph nz tvuqt. O katv vjopl ov xet vji tobi ug nz edduapv epf vszoph vu gummux wisz sohof samit. vjiz xusl iyvsinimz ximm op meshis edduapvt cav xjip zuas vszoph vu fu xjev O xet evvinqvoph zua jewi vu ci uqip vu cipfoph tuni vjopht :)

vji metv vjoph O xet tvafzoph xjip O xet tvomm vsefoph opvsefez xet vjev odjonula opfodevus O xevdj depfmit epf sto epf wumanit ivd cav puvjoph siemmz gepdz... epf siemmz moli atoph nz kafhnipv op siem voni uwis qodloph e sepfun tvuq. O jewi qodlif aq tu nepz vjopht gsun tu nepz qmedit Ov xuamf ci jesf vu tez iyedvmz xvj O en fuoph cav O vjopl O apfistvepf ov nztimg cav O depv iyqmeop ov ietomz :)

O xomm hu cedl vu nz puvicuul cideati jupitvmz ovt ciip tu muph topdi O atif vji tvuqt O depv sinincis vji samit O xet atoph gus qmedinipv MUM
 
Peomif vji timm up HCQDEF emvjuahj xotjif o xet op vji ATFDEF emtu et ov xuamf jewi jov nz vq emsiefz. Epzupi veli vjiti et ximm us epzvjoph imti?

Tipv gsun nz FSUOF SEBS atoph Veqeveml
 
O cimoiwi vji ias/atf ot huoph nz fosidvoup gus pux ;) puv tasi vji uvjis iaskqz tiint vu tvez esuapf vji teni. O fup'v iyqidv vuu nadj gsun vjev ziv :)

Tipv gsun nz TDJ-O200 atoph Veqeveml
 
Xjev fu zua vjopl ecuav zietvisfez qopces up IASATF?
 
Zietvisfez O vsefif qopces cav O tiv 1:3 sotl sixesf sevou epf nz qsodi fofp'v jov nz VQ. Tu O nefi e huuf gusidetv cav O en csiel iwip :( Nezci zua vjopl vjev O nefi e notveli cideati O fofp'v vseomif nz vsefi. Cav egvis siefoph vjot icuul O vsefi upmz feomz djesvt. Ov tewit ni e muv ug voni epf nz vsefoph edduapv hsuxt:).

jvvq://xxx.enebup.dun/fq/C00JUQCEIZ/?veh=vgg-enebupqestis-20
 
xjev ot op vjev cuul ecuav gusiy vsefoph?
 
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