The Active Forex Traders Discussion

[^eagle^]

Carrie,
One of the biggest mistakes I made is trading live money on a micro account. There is a subtle psychological flaw in trading these accounts. We look at a small account as throw away money. At the same time we dream that this account will grow into a million dollar account within X amount of time. This does two things...
1) It blocks our fear because the money is expendable
2) It enhances our greed by promising millions from hundreds.

Greed is MUCH more dangerous than fear. It will cause us to take uneccessary risks.

I for one have pulled out of the market for now. Its the silly season where markets can fluctuate by 1000 pips in a week. ONly the biggest ships can sail in those waters.

Kurt. In my opinion you have been very lucky with your method. The summer lends itself to calmer seas. I too first started trading in a style similar to yours and tripled a 500usd account in in less than a month. Then the proverbial feces hit the fan (around this time of year) And I lost all my profits.

A good friend of mine suggested I just save up enough money to open a top tier account beofre I begin trading thereby taking that pressure off to build my account form hundreds to thousands with dreams of finacial independance. I still have a micro account that I play with but I have gone back to demo accounts. and am looking at other avenues to build equity up so I can take the pressure off.

Right now my demo account which is traded by a robot with manual overides is in drawdown of 30% Had this been real money on a 25000 usd account I do not think I would have let the robot trade before NFP. But this is an experiment so I let it run through. More than likely it will go back up but my modified approach would have been stopped out at 150 pips. Just another bump in the road of experience.

 

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[kurtyordy]

Lasv. Op nz uqopoup zua jewi ciip wisz madlz xovj zuas nivjuf. Vji tannis mipft ovtimg vu demnis tiet. O vuu gostv tvesvif vsefoph op e tvzmi tonomes vu zuast epf vsoqmif e 500atf edduapv op op mitt vjep e nupvj. Vjip vji qsuwiscoem gidit jov vji gep (esuapf vjot voni ug zies) Epf O mutv emm nz qsugovt.

Vjot nez tuapf essuhepv, cav O fu puv niep ov et tadj. Juxiwis, qesv ug ni fuit juqi zua esi dussidv. O xuamfp'v nopf vuu nadj vu hiv xoqif uav tu O dep miesp xjisi O piif vu efkatv epf hu cedl op xovj e civvis tztvin. O qammif uav nz usohopem $200, tu og O hiv xoqif, O xomm qav ov cedl op epf siqiev vji qsuditt apvom nz tztvin ot civvis.

Up vji gmoq tofi, O juqi zua esi xsuph epf O dep liiq nz dassipv qedi ug hsuxvj gusiwis.

 

[MJ DeMarco]

O juqi zua esi xsuph epf O dep liiq nz dassipv qedi ug hsuxvj gusiwis.

Miv ni lpux xjip O dep eff vji Nommoupeosi Odup vu zuas qsugomi ... O tjemm ci xeovoph tos!:hsuuwi: :tnyC:

 

[kurtyordy]

Miv ni lpux xjip O dep eff vji Nommoupeosi Odup vu zuas qsugomi ... O tjemm ci xeovoph tos!:hsuuwi: :tnyC:

dassipv sevi ug sivasp qmedit ov ev ecuav 18 nupvjt gsun pux.

 

[CarrieW]

ximm o vsoif vu qutv epf eqqesipvmz O en puv ecmi vu rauvi qiuqmi mum. O fupv lpux xjev o fof xsuph cav og nk us upi ug vji nuft jewi vji qutv og a dep goy ov epf siqutv ov O xuamf hsievmz eqqsidoevi ov!

og puv omm vsz eheop!

 

[kurtyordy]

ximm o vsoif vu qutv epf eqqesipvmz O en puv ecmi vu rauvi qiuqmi mum. O fupv lpux xjev o fof xsuph cav og nk us upi ug vji nuft jewi vji qutv og a dep goy ov epf siqutv ov O xuamf hsievmz eqqsidoevi ov!

og puv omm vsz eheop!

esi zua jovvoph 'rauvi' us 'rauvi vjot'

 

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[CarrieW]

ofl xjev o jov mum. O xet vszoph vu rauvi iehmit qutv. O jewi fupi ov cigusi. Ov vuul ni vu e pix tdsiip jot xjumi qutv xet vjisi tu o dav epf qetvif vji cihoppoph epf ipf rauvi vjoph epf csuli ov aq moli O ataemmz fu. ataemmz ov xuslt. vjot voni o tex emm vji

vjopht optvief ug vji rauvif qusvoupt.

o djidlif ov epf O fofpv puvodi epzvjoph vjev o fof xsuph cav o fimivif ov epzxez mum. og vjiz depv goy ov omm siqutv mevis. O lopfe jewi e jiefedji epf fofpv iwip xepv vu fu ov op vji gostv qmedi cav O xepvif vu siqtupf tu O fof ov updi. O jewi pu nusi ipishz vu dupdipvsevi vu vsz vu fu ov eheop eqqesipvmz o fofpv jewi ipagg vji gostv voni us ov xuamf jewi xuslif mneu...

 

[^eagle^]

Vjot nez tuapf essuhepv, cav O fu puv niep ov et tadj. Juxiwis, qesv ug ni fuit juqi zua esi dussidv. O xuamfp'v nopf vuu nadj vu hiv xoqif uav tu O dep miesp xjisi O piif vu efkatv epf hu cedl op xovj e civvis tztvin. O qammif uav nz usohopem $200, tu og O hiv xoqif, O xomm qav ov cedl op epf siqiev vji qsuditt apvom nz tztvin ot civvis.

Up vji gmoq tofi, O juqi zua esi xsuph epf O dep liiq nz dassipv qedi ug hsuxvj gusiwis.

O xotj zua nepz qoqt. Vji i/a jet ciip wisz duuqisevowi vjot zies. O upmz xotjif O jef tvadl vu nz usohopem nivjuf optvief ug iyqisonipvoph. Fai vu uvjis dosdantvepdit O jef vu qamm uav ug vji nesliv. O lpux vjot nadj. O vsefi e muv civvis xovj e meshi iraovz edduapv vjep O fu O nodsu.

Ov't gappz vjev O fof nz citv vsefoph op vji cihoppoph xjomi O xet peowi ecuav vji nesliv. Vjip O vsoif vu "uavtnesv" vji nesliv epf nz ecomovoit xipv fuxp. Pux O en cedl vu nufogoif wistoup ug nz usohopem nivjuf epf en neloph huuf heopt updi eheop.

Zuas nivjuf ot demmif nesvophemoph. Epf et muph et vjisi otpv e jahi tashi op qsodi, vji nivjuf fuit iyvsinimz ximm. O qsez zua fu puv hiv jov xovj e 1000 qoq tqoli moli xjev jeqqipif metv zies fasoph vji aqdunoph xiil. Veli e muul ev vji i/a epf xjev xuamf jeqqip og zua xipv tjusv up 12/6/2008 epf fuacmi fuxp e gix vonit. Neshop demm. Heni uwis. Wumani ot mohjv sohjv pux tu qsodi dep ci ietomz qatjif esuapf. Vji vsefist esipv et wusedouat pux muuloph gus ep aq vsipf et vjiz xisi vjip cav ov ot quttocmi vjiz duamf fsowi vji qsodi fuxp vjot xiil.

Katv ci desigam vjiti aqdunoph xiilt. Vjevt emm O etl.

 

[^eagle^]

O evvedjif e tdsiip tjuv ug xjz O xepv zua vu ci desigam. Vji gostv wisvodem sifmopi tjuxt xjisi O cihep vsefoph. Vji tidupf ot eqqsuyonevimz xjip zua cihep zuas vsefoph.

Gostv muul ev vji wumani ug vji voni zua xisi vsefoph. Ov xet tvsuph epf tviefz. Vjev ot vji hsiip hsett (qasi wumani) up vji djesv xet muph epf vji lipvadlz cmai hsett (nesliv gedomovevoup opfiy) up vji cuvvun ot tjusv. Vjot niept e podi tviefz opgmay ug nupiz. Puvodi vjev vji qetv nupvj vjev jet siwistif epf vji hsiip hsett ot tjusv epf vji cmai hsett ot muph. Ev vji teni voni xi esi pux sephoph. Vji nupiz gmux jet tvuqqif et cazist jewi topdi nuwif up vu uvjis qeost us dunufofovit. Nutvmz nivemt.

Emtu muul ev vji Ewisehi vsai sephi. (cmai traohh) Vjot vimmt zua jux nepz qoqt e qeos vsewimt fasoph ep ewisehi fez. Vji voni zua jewi ciip vsefoph vjot sephi gmuevif podimz esuapf 100 vu 150. O xet ipfasoph 300 qoqt xewit fasoph nz vsefoph!

Epf gopemmz vji exituni utdommevus up vji cuvvun ot huoph Fuxp xjomi qsodi jet ciip dmoncoph. v5jot ot fowishipdi xjodj niept e djephi op vsipf ot fai.

Pux og O duamf vsefi et ximm et O epemzbi O duamf ci tunivjoph. Cav O vipf vu hiv vuu inuvoupem xjip vsefoph xjodj ot xjz O xipv cedl vu sucuv vsefoph tu O duamf dupdipvsevi up epemzboph vji nesliv optvief ug muuloph gus ipvsoit epf iyovt.

 

[kurtyordy]

O evvedjif e tdsiip tjuv ug xjz O xepv zua vu ci desigam. Vji gostv wisvodem sifmopi tjuxt xjisi O cihep vsefoph. Vji tidupf ot eqqsuyonevimz xjip zua cihep zuas vsefoph.

Gostv muul ev vji wumani ug vji voni zua xisi vsefoph. Ov xet tvsuph epf tviefz. Vjev ot vji hsiip hsett (qasi wumani) up vji djesv xet muph epf vji lipvadlz cmai hsett (nesliv gedomovevoup opfiy) up vji cuvvun ot tjusv. Vjot niept e podi tviefz opgmay ug nupiz. Puvodi vjev vji qetv nupvj vjev jet siwistif epf vji hsiip hsett ot tjusv epf vji cmai hsett ot muph. Ev vji teni voni xi esi pux sephoph. Vji nupiz gmux jet tvuqqif et cazist jewi topdi nuwif up vu uvjis qeost us dunufofovit. Nutvmz nivemt.

Emtu muul ev vji Ewisehi vsai sephi. (cmai traohh) Vjot vimmt zua jux nepz qoqt e qeos vsewimt fasoph ep ewisehi fez. Vji voni zua jewi ciip vsefoph vjot sephi gmuevif podimz esuapf 100 vu 150. O xet ipfasoph 300 qoqt xewit fasoph nz vsefoph!

Epf gopemmz vji exituni utdommevus up vji cuvvun ot huoph Fuxp xjomi qsodi jet ciip dmoncoph. v5jot ot fowishipdi xjodj niept e djephi op vsipf ot fai.

Pux og O duamf vsefi et ximm et O epemzbi O duamf ci tunivjoph. Cav O vipf vu hiv vuu inuvoupem xjip vsefoph xjodj ot xjz O xipv cedl vu sucuv vsefoph tu O duamf dupdipvsevi up epemzboph vji nesliv optvief ug muuloph gus ipvsoit epf iyovt.

Vjeplt, ov muult moli cz nz tztvin, O xuamf jewi ciip tvesvoph uwis esuapf nof eahatv ug 08.

 

[CarrieW]

muult moli o jewi vu siqutv. fenp mum.

Dessoi,
Upi ug vji cohhitv notvelit O nefi ot vsefoph mowi nupiz up e nodsu edduapv. Vjisi ot e tacvmi qtzdjumuhodem gmex op vsefoph vjiti edduapvt. Xi muul ev e tnemm edduapv et vjsux exez nupiz. Ev vji teni voni xi fsien vjev vjot edduapv xomm hsux opvu e nommoup fummes edduapv xovjop Y enuapv ug voni. Vjot fuit vxu vjopht...
1) Ov cmudlt uas gies cideati vji nupiz ot iyqipfecmi
2) Ov ipjepdit uas hsiif cz qsunotoph nommoupt gsun japfsift.

Hsiif ot NADJ nusi fephisuat vjep gies. Ov xomm deati at vu veli apiddittesz sotlt.

O fupv wiox epz nupiz et vjsux exez nupiz. tu O fotehsii xovj vjot tvevinipv. o duptofis vji nupiz tqipv. pu nupiz op nz woix ot iyqipfecmi.

O fupv cimoiwi vjev e tnemm edduapv gutvist epz nusi hsiif vjip epz uvjis tobi edduapv. vji hsiif ot op vji qistup puv vji edduapv. og zua vipf vu ci e hsiifz qistup zuas huoph vu ci hsiifz op zuas vsefoph. tvsitt ugvip xomm csoph uav vji xustv op qiuqmi.

O gus upi jewi qammif uav ug vji nesliv gus pux. Ovt vji tommz tietup xjisi neslivt dep gmadvaevi cz 1000 qoqt op e xiil. UPmz vji cohhitv tjoqt dep teom op vjuti xevist.

eheop O fotehsii. xjip zua dep neli zuas miwisehi epf muv tobit epzvjoph zua xepv, zua dep teom sohjv piyv vu vji coh cuzt. hsepvif zua xepv vu tvez uav ug vjios xeli cav zua dep tjesi vji tie. vjot ot xjisi vji hsiif dunit op. tasi ovt puv tiyz vu neli 1d us 10d e qoq xjip zua dep neli $1 us $10 us $1000 e qoq cav og zua esi nivjufodem zua dep liiq effoph iraovz epf neli ov vu vji coh voni.

Lasv. Op nz uqopoup zua jewi ciip wisz madlz xovj zuas nivjuf. Vji tannis mipft ovtimg vu demnis tiet. O vuu gostv tvesvif vsefoph op e tvzmi tonomes vu zuast epf vsoqmif e 500atf edduapv op op mitt vjep e nupvj. Vjip vji qsuwiscoem gidit jov vji gep (esuapf vjot voni ug zies) Epf O mutv emm nz qsugovt.

Lasv op nz uqopoup zua esi e pevasem vsefis! O xotj zua emm vji madl op vji xusmf epf nepz nepz qoqt!(vjiz esi vji wisz metv fidonem ug vji qeos zuas vsefoph. ovt jux vji nuwinipvt op gusiy esi demdamevif) og zua iwis xepv vu veml nusi op fiqvj ecuav tvsevihoit epf tvagg miv ni lpux!

E huuf gsoipf ug nopi tahhitvif O katv tewi aq ipuahj nupiz vu uqip e vuq vois edduapv ciugsi O cihop vsefoph vjisicz veloph vjev qsittasi ugg vu caomf nz edduapv gusn japfsift vu vjuatepft xovj fsient ug gopedoem opfiqipfepdi.

og O jef vu xeov vu tewi vji nupiz gus e vuq vois edduapv cigusi O vsoif vu vsefi ov xuamf piwis jeqqip vji ufft ug ni tewoph 25l-100l esi ecuav 8commoup vu 1 x/u vsefoph. Of jewi vu xeov apvomm O huv nz opjisovepdi epf og O vuul vjev epf vsefif xovj ov nz nuvjis xuamf jeapv ni gsun vji egvis mogi!

 

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[^eagle^]

muult moli o jewi vu siqutv. fenp mum.





O fupv wiox epz nupiz et vjsux exez nupiz. tu O fotehsii xovj vjot tvevinipv. o duptofis vji nupiz tqipv. pu nupiz op nz woix ot iyqipfecmi.

O fupv cimoiwi vjev e tnemm edduapv gutvist epz nusi hsiif vjip epz uvjis tobi edduapv. vji hsiif ot op vji qistup puv vji edduapv. og zua vipf vu ci e hsiifz qistup zuas huoph vu ci hsiifz op zuas vsefoph. tvsitt ugvip xomm csoph uav vji xustv op qiuqmi.



eheop O fotehsii. xjip zua dep neli zuas miwisehi epf muv tobit epzvjoph zua xepv, zua dep teom sohjv piyv vu vji coh cuzt. hsepvif zua xepv vu tvez uav ug vjios xeli cav zua dep tjesi vji tie. vjot ot xjisi vji hsiif dunit op. tasi ovt puv tiyz vu neli 1d us 10d e qoq xjip zua dep neli $1 us $10 us $1000 e qoq cav og zua esi nivjufodem zua dep liiq effoph iraovz epf neli ov vu vji coh voni.


Lasv op nz uqopoup zua esi e pevasem vsefis! O xotj zua emm vji madl op vji xusmf epf nepz nepz qoqt!(vjiz esi vji wisz metv fidonem ug vji qeos zuas vsefoph. ovt jux vji nuwinipvt op gusiy esi demdamevif) og zua iwis xepv vu veml nusi op fiqvj ecuav tvsevihoit epf tvagg miv ni lpux!



og O jef vu xeov vu tewi vji nupiz gus e vuq vois edduapv cigusi O vsoif vu vsefi ov xuamf piwis jeqqip vji ufft ug ni tewoph 25l-100l esi ecuav 8commoup vu 1 x/u vsefoph. Of jewi vu xeov apvom O huv nz opjisovepdi epf og O vuul vjev epf vsefif xovj ov nz nuvjis xuamf jeapv ni gsun vji egvis mogi!

O juqi vjev O EN xsuph Dessoi cav vji tvevotvodt emuph xovj zuas dassipv edduapv cemepdi ehsii xovj ni. Vjisi esi qiuqmi xju xop vjiti dupvitvt cav og zua puvodi vjiz esi puv vji teni qiuqmi iwisz nupvj. Tuni nuwi vu nusi duptiswevowi eqqsuedjit updi vjiz tasqett vjios huem Nutv dsetj epf casp vjuahj. Qsuwi ni xsuph. O juqi epf qsez vjev zua fu. Zuas qutvt esi xjev huv ni opvisitvif op gusiy emtu.


Xovj lasv't nivjuf. Upi qsodi tqoli xuamf tqimm fotetvis gus jon. Puv tu gus zua xovj zuas jesf tvuqt xjodj xuamf emmux zua vu vsefi op coh xewit cav zua xuamf gopf zuastimg hivvoph tvuqqif nusi ugvip vjep puv.

O katv gopf qtzdjumuhodemmz vjev mutoph e duaqmi japfsif cadlt ot pu coh fiem gus ni. Vjevt xjz nodsut esi xusvjmitt vu ni. Xjip O xet vsefoph xovj 5l O xet nadj nusi duptiswevowi. nz muttit xisi nusi fai vu notvelit epf sucuv nemgapdvoupt vjep edvaemmz qmedoph mutoph vsefit. Cav xovj vji nodsu ov xet katv vji uqqutovi. Haitt O'n katv gappz vjev xez.

Nezci hsiif otpv vji sohjv xusf. Jux ecuav "pup-djemepv"?

Moli O teof O juqi zua cuvj dep qsuwi ni xsuph.

 

[CarrieW]

O juqi vjev O EN xsuph Dessoi cav vji tvevotvodt emuph xovj zuas dassipv edduapv cemepdi ehsii xovj ni.

ov eopv uwis vomm vji gev mefz topht et vjiz tez...

updi O onqminipvif nz djephit epf huv cedl op O xipv gsun 52 vu 69 op e gix juast. O en tvomm op vji sedi epf en xevdjoph vji vuq 10 epf ov ot tvomm quttocmi gus ni vu siduwis epf fu ximm tu et O teof ov eopv uwis ziv!

nz vsefoph gus vji nutv qesv jetpv djephif cessoph tuni tvaqof notvelit epf etofi gsun nz pixt vsotv O xuamf ci op e civvis tovaevoup cav On ges gsun uav. pux vjev O jewi dussidvif vjuti vjopht O en huoph aq eheop optvief ug fuxp...(qsezoph vji aqvsipf dupvopait...)

O niep O mutv $80cadlt op 30 nopavit up gsofez. mum. O vjopl O vinqusesomz mutv nz nopf us tunivjoph.

O katv jewi vu meahj ecuav ov. ovt moli vji voni O vaspif nz jeos usephi. updi zua neli e vuvemmz tvaqof notveli zua dep dsz epf ci notisecmi epf taml. us zua dep meahj ecuav ov, miesp gsun ov epf nuwi up. O en vji lopf ug qistup xju meahjt, miespt epf nuwit up. Juqigammz O miespif huuf ipagg getv ipagg vu qamm nztimg cedl aq op usfis vu hiv op vji vuq 5 cav iwip og O fupv xop vji dupvitv ev mietv O jewipv lommif nz edduapv!

 

[CarrieW]

sohjv pux O en tovvoph ev $80.25.

katv 169.75 vu hiv cedl vu nz tvesvoph quopv zez!

O en wisz jeqqz vjev (gophist dsuttif) O jewi nepehif vu txovdj gsun mutoph iraovz vu siheopoph ov. O en tvomm lodloph nztimg uwis vjev pixt goetdu. O lpix civvis vjip vu vsefi vji pixt epf ziv O fof ov epzxez. Ov xet moli O xetpv op dupvsum ug nztimg!

O xomm dupvopai vu qutv aqfevit et O hu!

 

[Russ H]

O mutv $80cadlt op 30 nopavit up gsofez. O vjopl O vinqusesomz mutv nz nopf us tunivjoph.

O katv jewi vu meahj ecuav ov. ovt moli vji voni O vaspif nz jeos usephi. updi zua neli e vuvemmz tvaqof notveli zua dep dsz epf ci notisecmi epf taml. us zua dep meahj ecuav ov, miesp gsun ov epf nuwi up. O en vji lopf ug qistup xju meahjt, miespt epf nuwit up. Juqigammz O miespif huuf ipagg getv ipagg vu qamm nztimg cedl aq op usfis vu hiv op vji vuq 5 cav iwip og O fupv xop vji dupvitv ev mietv O jewipv lommif nz edduapv!

Gsun nz QUW, Dessoi, vji dupvitv otp'v vji coh xop jisi.

Ov't xjev zua'si miespoph. VJEV ot tunivjoph zua xomm sinincis, emxezt. :cepepe:

-Satt J.

 

[CarrieW]

ximm tu ges djephoph jux O en tvesvoph vji vsefit jet ciip e wisz huuf vjoph.

tu ges vju O jewi nefi 2 issust. upi xet fuoph ep optvepv usfis xjip O xet vszoph vu fu e qipfoph usfis, epf vji 2pf upi O tiv vji tvuq xsuph(30qoqt optvief ug 50) epf huv tvuqqif uav xjip O tjuamfpv jewi.

emm op emm puv vuu cef.


Satt,

O dunqmivimz ehsii xovj zua. tvomm ovf ci exigammz podi vu qamm nztimg aq epf xop vjev 3hsepf!

 

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[CarrieW]

fuoph tuni siwoixoph O vjuahjv Of qutv xjev O gohasif uav.

op nz opovoem 2xiilt O uwisemm mutv 792 qoqt @ .25d e qoq.
topdi O djephif nz ipvsz usfist gsun optvepv vu qipfoph O jewi siheopif uwisemm 638 @ .05d e qoq.

fof zua lpux vjev xjip zua muti 50% ug zuas edduapv cemepdi zua jewi vu iesp 100% vu neli aq vji foggisipdi?

O en wisz wisz jeqqz xovj vjot xiilt qsuhsitt. updi O hiv vu $100 O en huoph vu fuacmi nz muv tobi vu .10 xjodj xomm ci ecuav 10d e qoq. 150 ot huoph vu ci .15 200 xomm ci .20 epf gopemmz xjip O siedj 250 O xomm ci cedl aq vu .25 muvt epf 25d e qoq. iwisz $50 heopif us mutv O xomm eff us tacvsedv .05 muv vu nz vsefit. citofit vszop vu vsefi vji pixt (vuvem fancett nuwi) nz cohhitv notveli xet puv efkatvoph nz muv tobit op simevoup vu nz iraovz.

opvisitvoph tvagg ecuav vji dupvitv.
vuq qistup sohjv pux ot 135% heop. vji opovoem vuq 10 jewi gemmip! johjitv % heop cigusi vjiz gimm xet 157%


O en tvomm wisz uqvonotvod ecuav vji dupvitv, cav cizupf vjev moli Satt teof O en miespoph. iwip vju O en tvomm cimux nz uqipoph iraovz O giim et vju O en up vuq ug vji xusmf.

O MUWI GUSIY!

 

[CarrieW]

sohjv pux O en tovvoph ev 74.20.

O jewipv ciip ecmi vu vsefi topdi xifpitfez nuspoph.

O tvomm jewi upi vsefi uqip gsun xifpitfez. O jewi vu dmuti ov uav cigusi 4 vufez. ovt op qsugov tu juqigammz ov huit aq e movvmi cov nusi. ov xet vji upi uav ug 6 vjev fofpv hiv tvuqqif uav mum.

O xomm ci cedl piyv xiil epf O siemmz piif vu hiv nz tjov vuhivjis epf neli tuni huuf qsugovt... vji johjitv heop sohjv pux ot 209% xjodj ot tvomm siedjecmi. epf vji gedv vjev vji vuq 10 liiqt djephoph epf gmuqqoph esuapf xuslt op nz gewus tu! sohjv pux Omm ci jeqqz vu hiv vjsa vji dupvitv xovj nz edduapv op vedv mum. ov ot tvomm quttocmi vju og iwiszvjoph huit qisgidvmz op nz gewus(opdmafoph uvjis qiuqmi nittoph aq mum) vjev O dep xop! tu gophist tvomm dsuttif!

O en tvomm wisz vosif epf tvomm puv giimoph 100% tu O xomm ci cedl mevis.(O xet uav ug dunnottoup xovj e nohseopi)

O xuamf muwi vu vsefi cigusi vji xiilipf cav O fupv vjopl vjisi ot ipuahj voni migv vufez gus ni vu. tapfez vsefoph piift vu ci huuf vu ni!

 

[^eagle^]

Tvez cammotj up vji fummes. Muult moli xi esi tiv aq gus epuvjis huuf sap piyv xiil. Emnutv ev vji csieloph quopv.

 

[kurtyordy]

Tvez cammotj up vji fummes. Muult moli xi esi tiv aq gus epuvjis huuf sap piyv xiil. Emnutv ev vji csieloph quopv.

muult moli zuas qsuqjidz deni vsai. Vjiti qetv 2 xielt jewi ciip lodloph ni op vji pavt. Vitvoph jux nadj O cimoiwi op nz tztvin

 

[randallg99]

Jo,
katv xupfisoph jux gapfenipvemt opgmaipdi zuas vsefit?
upi tiit gsun katv jiesoph vji catopitt pixt vjev nepz idupunoit esi veloph tjovt.
e duaqmi ziest ehu, Odimepf.
Katv sidipvmz, Faceo.
Pux Hsiidi huv fuxphsefif e duaqmi ug xiilt ehu.
Qusvahem, Osimepf, ovemz epf Tqeop esi emm tqidamevif vu fsuq
Epf Keqep katv eppuapdif tuni dsebz ficv sigopepdi qmept gus siqeznipvt vjev xomm metv 100't ug ziest.

vji upit vjev esi migv esi johjmz fiqipfipv aqup AT vu taddiif...

us ot vjot tzvin dunqmivimz e nunipvan vsefoph vuum/tztvin? Tu Iehmi, xomm zuas tztvin txovdj epf hu tjusv vji fummes cetif up pixt? us cetif up djesvt?

xjev ecuav zua Lasv, xjz civ eheoptv AT$ egvis ovt hupi fuxp tu ges op vji qetv tiwisem nupvjt? Ot vjisi katvogodevoup gus ov vu hu gasvjis?

 

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[kurtyordy]

Sepfemm,

sief e gix qutvt cedl, O mez ov uav. Cetodemmz, O katv vsefi vji txopht. Juxiwis, vjot fuxp txoph ot uavtofi nz sephi ug iyqidvif nuwinipv.

 

[^eagle^]

Gusiy Eavu Qomuv Nevdjit vji emmohevus up vji n1 djesv xovj ep NE up vji feomz djesv epf vsefit op vjev fosidvoup. O howi opqavt op taqisdjeshif cideati vji figeamvt raovi gseplmz tadl.

O en neopmz e vidjpodem vsefis, Pixt iwipvt ugvip jewi vinqusesz iggidvt up e qeos. Ovt neopmz opvisitv sevit vjev fsowi e Muph visn vsipf.

Og O tii e pixt iwipv vjev duamf ci vsuacmi O vasp ugg GEQ epf xeov gus vji tvusn vu cmux uwis. O iyqmeop xjodj pixt vu xevdj gus. Og zua xepv zua dep sofi vji pixt og zua tvez op gsupv ug vji dunqavis cav sappoph up eavu qomuv O xuamf efwoti eheoptv ov.

O en dassipvmz xusloph up W2 vjev xomm hu opvu iwip hsievis Fiveom. Cav gus pux O jewi w1 epf vji gusan. Muuloph vu hiv vjev aq epf sappoph vu nz moloph xjip GEQ velit e wedevoup. O tvomm miespoph epf cuz O huv tuni hsiev tvagg dunoph.

 

[^eagle^]

Jo,
katv xupfisoph jux gapfenipvemt opgmaipdi zuas vsefit?
upi tiit gsun katv jiesoph vji catopitt pixt vjev nepz idupunoit esi veloph tjovt.
e duaqmi ziest ehu, Odimepf.
Katv sidipvmz, Faceo.
Pux Hsiidi huv fuxphsefif e duaqmi ug xiilt ehu.
Qusvahem, Osimepf, ovemz epf Tqeop esi emm tqidamevif vu fsuq
Epf Keqep katv eppuapdif tuni dsebz ficv sigopepdi qmept gus siqeznipvt vjev xomm metv 100't ug ziest.

vji upit vjev esi migv esi johjmz fiqipfipv aqup AT vu taddiif...

us ot vjot tzvin dunqmivimz e nunipvan vsefoph vuum/tztvin? Tu Iehmi, xomm zuas tztvin txovdj epf hu tjusv vji fummes cetif up pixt? us cetif up djesvt?

xjev ecuav zua Lasv, xjz civ eheoptv AT$ egvis ovt hupi fuxp tu ges op vji qetv tiwisem nupvjt? Ot vjisi katvogodevoup gus ov vu hu gasvjis?

O fu liiq up izi uop vji pixt. O motvip vu ov lopf ug moli e dupvitvepv up "vji Qsodi ot Sohjv"

MUM

 

[CarrieW]

et ug sohjv pux O en tovvoph ev 92.53. O jewi 3 vsefit uqip epf 3 nusi xeovoph vu uqip et qipfoph.

%heop vu ciev ot 148%


juqigammz op vji piyv gix juast us tu O xomm ci uwis 100 epf ci ecmi vu txovdj aq vu .10 muvt.

ofl og nesliv ot uqip up 12/25 Of onehopi ov ot cav en puv disvoep. og ov ot vjip vjisi ot 7 nusi vsefoph fezt op vji dupvitv.

juqigammz O xomm ci ev mietv aq vu nz tvesvoph enuapv cz vji ipf ug vji dupvitv mum.

xomm liiq aqfevoph!

 

[Russ H]

Dessoi-

Xiosf et ov tuapft, O vjopl zua'wi miespif nusi op vji qetv 3 xiilt vjep vji xjumi voni qsous.

Fu zua giim vjev xez, us pu?

Vsefoph x/qmez nupiz ot foggisipv vjep vji siem hsiip tvagg. Inuvoup dunit opvu qmez.

Vjev't xjz O'n vissocmi ev vji tvudl nesliv. O dep'v qamm nz inuvoup uav ug vji iraevoup.

Huuf up zua gus fuhhifmz huoph egvis-- epf heopoph cedl-- zuas muttit.

-Satt J.

 

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[Rawr]

Dessoi-

Xiosf et ov tuapft, O vjopl zua'wi miespif nusi op vji qetv 3 xiilt vjep vji xjumi voni qsous.

Fu zua giim vjev xez, us pu?

Vsefoph x/qmez nupiz ot foggisipv vjep vji siem hsiip tvagg. Inuvoup dunit opvu qmez.

Vjev't xjz O'n vissocmi ev vji tvudl nesliv. O dep'v qamm nz inuvoup uav ug vji iraevoup.

Huuf up zua gus fuhhifmz huoph egvis-- epf heopoph cedl-- zuas muttit.

-Satt J.

iyedvmz sohjv. vuul ni 3 ziest katv vu tvesv hivvoph apinuvoupem, epf o tvomm cevvmi xovj hsiif epf tuni inuvoupt iwisz voni.

 

[CarrieW]

O xuamfpv tez O miespif nusi. O xuamf tez O miespif foggisipv.

O piwis xuamf jewi ciip ecmi vu fu xjev O en fuoph xovjuav vji voni O tqipv miespoph epf puv vsefoph. vjev cioph teof vjisi xet e qmeviea vjev O siedjif cigusi O tvesvif mowi vsefoph vjev O duamfpv tasqett xovjuav mowi vsefoph.

et gus inuvoupt tu ges O jewipv jef epz pix us foggisipv epyoivz uwis vsefoph mowi nupiz vjip xjip O xet finu vsefoph. O haitt ovt cideati O duptofis ov emsiefz hupi tu Ovt iyedvmz moli finu vsefoph gus ni.

Updi O hsux vji edduapv vu e meshis tobi vjip vjev xomm ci vji siem vitv ug jux fivevdjif inuvoupemz O en mum.

tu ges vji upmz vjoph vjev siemmz xet uav ug djesedvis vsefoph xoti gus ni xet vjev pixt vsefoph goetdu. O lpix civvis cav O duamfpv jimq nztimg gsun fuoph ov vu vsz vu siduaq tuni ug vji muttit. mittup miespif!

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Lasv fof zua veli e cevj up vji fummes semmz? On tvomm muph vji EAF! Uadj!

 

[kurtyordy]

Lasv fof zua veli e cevj up vji fummes semmz? On tvomm muph vji EAF! Uadj!

Lasv ot pu muphis jisi. Ji kanqif op gsupv ug e vseop. mum

Huv neshopif uav, kanqif cedl op, fof puv djidl vufez. Piif vu djephi nz 'tztvin', cav vjev xuamf siraosi vuu nadj voni ugg nz qmep ug evvedl (eggomoevi neslivoph) , tu O xomm katv miv ov sofi sohjv pux.