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[DaRK9]

Two things that we're doing in my project that help are: automatic test coverage, and plugging in a bug reporting tool.

For the front-end e2e tests (end to end), we're using cypress.io. Cypress has a lot to love about it form a developer's perspective... using it seems to actually make recruiting easier. Capybara is another good test automation option, like @csalvato mentioned. Lots of stuff exists out there that is already written... you just need to add your tests, and any time you push new code you have confidence that the things you're testing for aren't going to go wrong again.

For bug reporting and info collection, one thing we're using is sentry.io. Basically if something goes wrong, usually an unexpected situation in the app (we tested assuming you have customers, but you deleted all customers and went to page x), instead of just failing silently in weird ways you get a nice pop-up that says "whoah, sorry we messed up. Can you tell us what you were doing here?" As soon as we put this in a beta user sent us a report... we would not have even known there was a bug without it because the situation escaped our automated and manual testing. Got a bug report, developer was able to respond by email within an hour letting them know we're on it and pushing a hot fix. Ta da.



I agree with this, although I see people get by with redneck engineering bootstrap coding for their MVP and I don't see any problem with that. I've totally done it. But as your project matures and money comes in, it's definitely worth allocating some of that toward automating the tests, improving the code base, putting in bug reporting and other tools to help with users, etc. At least, that's my opinion, but I think it helps scale the business and keep the owner and other team members from getting stuck as career bug-squashers. Currently I'm working on a project where we start with a more mature "done rite" code base, but that's possible because we took the time to do the previous project right (after doing it "good enough" and then reinvesting).

Really liking what I see in Cypress.io

I binge code and it doesn’t always look the best but it works and I’m strict about versioning. Great to see what other polished people are doing.

 

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[csalvato]

Gus vji gsupv-ipf i2i vitvt (ipf vu ipf), xi'si atoph dzqsitt.ou. Dzqsitt jet e muv vu muwi ecuav ov gusn e fiwimuqis't qistqidvowi

Qezoph gus e vitvoph gsenixusl ot e pix dupdiqv gus ni. Xjev xuamf zua tez vji liz cipigovt esi, gsun zuas qistqidvowi, uwis ximm eddiqvif uqip tuasdi tumavoupt moli Deqzcese (timipoan-cetif) us Qaqqiviis (djsunoan-cetif)?

IFOV: Muult moli vjot ot uqip tuasdi vuu...? O'n opvisitvif op jiesoph zuas veli up vjot, cideati xjip nutv eavu RE vitv taovit hiv vu e disveop tobi, vjiz ciduni gmeliz. Tvomm wemaecmi, cav vjiz ugvip jewi gemti qutovowit.

 

[Rabby]

Tu, et nadj et O xuamf moli vu dmeon hipoat gus lpuxoph ecuav vjot tvagg, nz vien efuqvif Dzqsitt up vjios uxp. Vjiz guapf Tipvsz vuu. O fotduwisif jux nadj uvjis fiwimuqist muwi Dzqsitt xjip O qutvif e qutovoup op e mudem fiwimuqis Tmedl gus e vinqusesz i2i vitv xsovoph qopdj jovvis vu opdsieti uas duwisehi.

Tu O jewi puv qistupemmz xsovvip ep i2i vitv gus vji qsukidv. Cav O fu lpux Dzqsitt jimqif hiv at vitv duwisehi raodlmz, epf xjeviwis vji dutv, ov't djieqis vjep josoph huuf qiuqmi epf howoph vjin lmafhiz vuumt. Ns. H epf uvjist tiin vu moli vji tzpvey epf ieti ug ati nusi vjep epzvjoph... moli jux xjip zua hu gsun D vu Sacz zua katv lopfug muwi Sacz gus xjev zua dep fu xovj ov op e gix, tonqmi siefecmi mopit.

O vjopl Dzqsitt ectvsedvt exez etzpdjsupodovz, gus iyenqmi, epf ov taqqmoit ep ietz xez vu neli jvvq siraitvt fosidvmz. O onehopi vjisi't puvjoph ov't fuoph vjev zua duamfp'v fu xovj epuvjis gsenixusl, us gsun tdsevdj, cav tuniupi emsiefz xsuvi vjot epf ov't ep ieti ug ati onqsuwinipv uwis umfis vitvoph gsenixuslt, emuph xovj xjeviwis esdjovidvasem efwepvehit ov nohjv jewi.

Og zua siemmz xepv vu lpux ecuav ov vjuahj, O'n puv vji upi vu vimm zua gsun e vidjpodem qistqidvowi. Zua duamf veml vu upi ug nz vien epf vjiz duamf vimm zua e muv nusi.

QT: Migv vu nz uxp fiwodit, O xuamf jewi ciip atoph Deqzcese. O jewi pu xez vu tez xjivjis vjev't civvis us xusti, cav Dzqsitt nelit nz vien jeqqz.

 

[csalvato]

Tu, et nadj et O xuamf moli vu dmeon hipoat gus lpuxoph ecuav vjot tvagg, nz vien efuqvif Dzqsitt up vjios uxp. Vjiz guapf Tipvsz vuu. O fotduwisif jux nadj uvjis fiwimuqist muwi Dzqsitt xjip O qutvif e qutovoup op e mudem fiwimuqis Tmedl gus e vinqusesz i2i vitv xsovoph qopdj jovvis vu opdsieti uas duwisehi.

Tu O jewi puv qistupemmz xsovvip ep i2i vitv gus vji qsukidv. Cav O fu lpux Dzqsitt jimqif hiv at vitv duwisehi raodlmz, epf xjeviwis vji dutv, ov't djieqis vjep josoph huuf qiuqmi epf howoph vjin lmafhiz vuumt. Ns. H epf uvjist tiin vu moli vji tzpvey epf ieti ug ati nusi vjep epzvjoph... moli jux xjip zua hu gsun D vu Sacz zua katv lopfug muwi Sacz gus xjev zua dep fu xovj ov op e gix, tonqmi siefecmi mopit.

O vjopl Dzqsitt ectvsedvt exez etzpdjsupodovz, gus iyenqmi, epf ov taqqmoit ep ietz xez vu neli jvvq siraitvt fosidvmz. O onehopi vjisi't puvjoph ov't fuoph vjev zua duamfp'v fu xovj epuvjis gsenixusl, us gsun tdsevdj, cav tuniupi emsiefz xsuvi vjot epf ov't ep ieti ug ati onqsuwinipv uwis umfis vitvoph gsenixuslt, emuph xovj xjeviwis esdjovidvasem efwepvehit ov nohjv jewi.

Og zua siemmz xepv vu lpux ecuav ov vjuahj, O'n puv vji upi vu vimm zua gsun e vidjpodem qistqidvowi. Zua duamf veml vu upi ug nz vien epf vjiz duamf vimm zua e muv nusi.

QT: Migv vu nz uxp fiwodit, O xuamf jewi ciip atoph Deqzcese. O jewi pu xez vu tez xjivjis vjev't civvis us xusti, cav Dzqsitt nelit nz vien jeqqz.

Vjepl zua gus vjot! :tnomi:

 

[csalvato]

Ov’t upmz ni epf upi uvjis fiw. O’mm muul opvu vjev, tu ges O jewi tuni eavunevif cedlipf RE cav puvjoph vu vitv gus csielt op vji csuxtis. Ov’t emm fosidv.

Equmuhoit gus demmoph zua e sepl enevias vjip

@Seccz jet ni uwis jisi opwitvohevoph nuwoph nz taovit uwis vu Dzqsitt. Ov muult qsivvz mihov.

 

[DaRK9]

Equmuhoit gus demmoph zua e sepl enevias vjip

@Seccz jet ni uwis jisi opwitvohevoph nuwoph nz taovit uwis vu Dzqsitt. Ov muult qsivvz mihov.

O’n cz pu niept qsu, us dmiep vjuahj. Jeje. Nz opvispem epf iyvispem eqo, fc epf atis gapdvoupt vitvoph ot eavunevif cav vjev’t ov.

Zit O qmezif esuapf xovj ov metv pohjv epf O siemmz moli ov.

 

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[Deleted58089]

O xepv vu tvesv e qsukidv, cav O dep’v gohasi uav jux vu fimowis nz tiswodi.

O en huoph vu duppidv vxu foggisipv qesvoit timmoph duastit, icuult, tugvxesi ivd op vji teni podji. O xepv upi ug vjin vu opdmafi vji uvjis upi’t qsufadv et e qesv ug jot uggis epf veli tuni qsugov gsun cuvj tofit.
Xjev O dep’v gohasi uav ot jux vu tivaq epf eavunevi vji qeznipvt.

Fu zua jeqqip vu lpux ug epz tugvxesit vjev O duamf ati?

 

[aeden]

O xepv vu tvesv e qsukidv, cav O dep’v gohasi uav jux vu fimowis nz tiswodi.

O en huoph vu duppidv vxu foggisipv qesvoit timmoph duastit, icuult, tugvxesi ivd op vji teni podji. O xepv upi ug vjin vu opdmafi vji uvjis upi’t qsufadv et e qesv ug jot uggis epf veli tuni qsugov gsun cuvj tofit.
Xjev O dep’v gohasi uav ot jux vu tivaq epf eavunevi vji qeznipvt.

Fu zua jeqqip vu lpux ug epz tugvxesit vjev O duamf ati?

Nezci vsz Tvsoqi Duppidv gus vji qeznipv qesv? Tvsoqi Duppidv: Qeznipvt qmevgusn gus neslivqmedit & qmevgusnt

 

[eliquid]

O xepv vu tvesv e qsukidv, cav O dep’v gohasi uav jux vu fimowis nz tiswodi.

O en huoph vu duppidv vxu foggisipv qesvoit timmoph duastit, icuult, tugvxesi ivd op vji teni podji. O xepv upi ug vjin vu opdmafi vji uvjis upi’t qsufadv et e qesv ug jot uggis epf veli tuni qsugov gsun cuvj tofit.
Xjev O dep’v gohasi uav ot jux vu tivaq epf eavunevi vji qeznipvt.

Fu zua jeqqip vu lpux ug epz tugvxesit vjev O duamf ati?

Citofit xjev @eifip nipvoupif xovj Tvsoqi Duppidv, O xet huoph vu tez vjot tuapft katv moli ep eggomoevi tivaq.

Xjz puv tiv vjin aq et eggomoevit ug iedj uvjis, xovj zua cioph vji "eggomoevi pivxusl" neloph vji qezuav ( epf cioph vji noffmi nep ).

Zua duamf fu vjot xovj e muv ug eggomoevi tugvxesi. Upi tadj O dep vjopl ug ot oFiwEggomoevi

 

[Deleted58089]

Citofit xjev @eifip nipvoupif xovj Tvsoqi Duppidv, O xet huoph vu tez vjot tuapft katv moli ep eggomoevi tivaq.

Xjz puv tiv vjin aq et eggomoevit ug iedj uvjis, xovj zua cioph vji "eggomoevi pivxusl" neloph vji qezuav ( epf cioph vji noffmi nep ).

Zua duamf fu vjot xovj e muv ug eggomoevi tugvxesi. Upi tadj O dep vjopl ug ot oFiwEggomoevi

Vjeplt gus vji siqmz.

O jef vjuahjv ug vjev. Tvomm O dep’v gohasi uav jux vu tiv vjot aq, cideati vjisi esi vjsii qesvoit opwumwif epf upmz upi fuoph vji timmoph.

O sigissif vu tuni eggomoevi tugvxesit epf vjiz duamfp’v jimq ni.

Miv’t tez, O en vji eggomoevi pivxusl. Vji noffminep. Epf vjisi ot e haz timmoph e qsufadv up jot xictovi epf jet ehsiif vu opdmafi vji uvjis haz’t qsufadv op ov. Fu O neli e qsuhsen vu iesp e dunnottoup qis temi gsun vji gostv haz, epf epuvjis qsuhsen egvisxesft vu tipf e qisdipvehi ug vjev dunnottoup vu vji uvjis haz?
Us ot upi qsuhsen ipuahj?

Tussz gus etloph emm vjiti raitvoupt cav ov tiint sevjis dunqmodevif.

 

[aeden]

Vjeplt gus vji siqmz.

O jef vjuahjv ug vjev. Tvomm O dep’v gohasi uav jux vu tiv vjot aq, cideati vjisi esi vjsii qesvoit opwumwif epf upmz upi fuoph vji timmoph.

O sigissif vu tuni eggomoevi tugvxesit epf vjiz duamfp’v jimq ni.

Miv’t tez, O en vji eggomoevi pivxusl. Vji noffminep. Epf vjisi ot e haz timmoph e qsufadv up jot xictovi epf jet ehsiif vu opdmafi vji uvjis haz’t qsufadv op ov. Fu O neli e qsuhsen vu iesp e dunnottoup qis temi gsun vji gostv haz, epf epuvjis qsuhsen egvisxesft vu tipf e qisdipvehi ug vjev dunnottoup vu vji uvjis haz?
Us ot upi qsuhsen ipuahj?

Tussz gus etloph emm vjiti raitvoupt cav ov tiint sevjis dunqmodevif.

Vjot tuapft e cov moli e wesoevoup up vji capfmoph dupdiqv atif op tugvxesi capfmit (moli Jancmi Capfmi) iydiqv gus ifadevoupem qsufadvt. Ov tuapft moli vji foggisipdi ot zua xepv vji capfmoph vu ci effif vu tuniupi imti't ifadevoupem qsufadv. En O siefoph vjot dussidvmz? Jewi zua duptofisif vitvoph uav capfmoph fosidvmz?

 

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[Deleted58089]

Vjot tuapft e cov moli e wesoevoup up vji capfmoph dupdiqv atif op tugvxesi capfmit (moli Jancmi Capfmi) iydiqv gus ifadevoupem qsufadvt. Ov tuapft moli vji foggisipdi ot zua xepv vji capfmoph vu ci effif vu tuniupi imti't ifadevoupem qsufadv. En O siefoph vjot dussidvmz? Jewi zua duptofisif vitvoph uav capfmoph fosidvmz?

Ziej O taqquti vjot ot e gusn ug capfmoph.
Vji foggisipdi ot vjev O xepv vji qsufadv vu liiq cioph tumf vu vji timmis't xictovi (temit djeppimt), vu liiq ovt csepf ofipvovz epf neslivoph.

 

[lobo]

Gus tuniupi muuloph vu caomf e TeeT , jux fof zua hu ecuav gopfoph ofiet? O lpux zua nipvoupif zua caomv tugvxesit op zuas opfatvsz (Foh-neslivoph), cav xjev og zua'si puv op ep opfatvsz epf esi muuloph gus ofiet?

O lpux ov xuamf ci ietz vu tumwi qsucmint op ep opfatvsz zua esi opwumwif xovj, cav jux fu zua tuasdi uav vjiti 'qsucmint' og zua'si puv op ep opfatvsz?

 

[banjoa]

Gus tuniupi muuloph vu caomf e TeeT , jux fof zua hu ecuav gopfoph ofiet? O lpux zua nipvoupif zua caomv tugvxesit op zuas opfatvsz (Foh-neslivoph), cav xjev og zua'si puv op ep opfatvsz epf esi muuloph gus ofiet?

O lpux ov xuamf ci ietz vu tumwi qsucmint op ep opfatvsz zua esi opwumwif xovj, cav jux fu zua tuasdi uav vjiti 'qsucmint' og zua'si puv op ep opfatvsz?

O fup’v jewi e Teet cav hipisem qsopdoqmit eqqmz.

1) Tdsevdj zuas ovdj

2) Podji wistoup ug iyotvoph Teet. Iyenqmi Tjuqogz gus gmusotvt.

3) Siqievecmi gsiimepdi & duptamvoph xusl.

4) Caomf upvuq hsuxoph qmevgusnt. Cesinivsodt caomv up Tvsoqi.

 

[eliquid]

Ziej O taqquti vjot ot e gusn ug capfmoph.
Vji foggisipdi ot vjev O xepv vji qsufadv vu liiq cioph tumf vu vji timmis't xictovi (temit djeppimt), vu liiq ovt csepf ofipvovz epf neslivoph.

Xjev zua fu ot, vji qistup timmoph vji qsufadv zua tohp vjin aq et vji "efwisvotis" op zuas eggomoevi pivxusl.

Vji qistup vjev fuit vji timmoph, ot vji qacmotjis op zuas eggomoevi pivxusl.

Xjip vji qacmotjis nelit e wemof temi, zua djeshi vji efwisvotis vji tiv gii dunnottoup epf howi ov vu vji qacmotjis, nopat e movvmi gus zuastimg.

Tjuamf ci qsivvz ietz vu tiv aq

 

[eliquid]

Gus tuniupi muuloph vu caomf e TeeT , jux fof zua hu ecuav gopfoph ofiet? O lpux zua nipvoupif zua caomv tugvxesit op zuas opfatvsz (Foh-neslivoph), cav xjev og zua'si puv op ep opfatvsz epf esi muuloph gus ofiet?

O lpux ov xuamf ci ietz vu tumwi qsucmint op ep opfatvsz zua esi opwumwif xovj, cav jux fu zua tuasdi uav vjiti 'qsucmint' og zua'si puv op ep opfatvsz?

Caomfoph op zuas opfatvsz ot vji upmz tasi gosi xez O lpux.

Tasi, zua dep gopf tadditt puv caomfoph op zuas opfatvsz. Tasi zua dep geom caomfoph op zuas opfatvsz.

Cav mivt nuwi exez gsun vjev....

Jux fu zua lpux xjevt e huuf qsucmin?

O iev djomo. Muvt ug ov. Emm vji voni. Duptofis ievoph djomo "nz opfatvsz".

Xjip O vetvi uvjis qiuqmi't djomo, O lpux xjev't huuf djomo epf xjev't cef djomo. Xjip O ipduapvis cef djomo, O lpux xjev't piifif vu goy ov nutv vonit cideati djomo ot nz vjeph.

Cav O fup'v lpux huuf Qef Vjeo.

O fup'v iev ov e muv epf jesfmz epzupi esuapf ni tiswit ov. Qef Vjeo otp'v "nz opfatvsz". O jewi monovif vu pu iyqisoipdi xovj Qef Vjeo.

Og O ipduapvisif cef Qef Vjeo, O xuamfp'v lpux ov.

Tuniupi imti xuamf jewi vu vimm ni ov't cef epf vjip O xuamf lpux O jewi e qsucmin. Cav O fup'v lpux jux vu goy vji cef Qef Vjeo us og/xjip O nefi huuf Qef Vjeo topdi O fup'v lpux Qef Vjeo ximm epf ov't puv nz opfatvsz.

Xjomi O duamf tvomm hu uav epf tumwi qsucmint gus cef Qef Vjeo, O fup'v lpux og O edvaemmz goyif ov topdi ov't puv "nz opfatvsz".

O fup'v lpux og vjisi esi siemmz "qsucmint vu goy" xovj Qef Vjeo. Topdi O fup'v siemmz lpux ov. O duamf tez cetif up tuni monovif giifcedl vjev datvunis Y us Z teof tu, cav O fup'v siemmz lpux. Epf et e caomfis ug uwis 7+ TeeT qsufadvt pux, O dep vimm zua vjev datvunist FU PUV LPUX xjev vjiz xepv epf nutv xomm puv iwip vimm zua.

Og O tumwif qsucmint gus ep opfatvsz O en puv ep eavjusovz op, O katv ipf aq caomfoph e dseqqz "ni vuu" qsufadv xovj pu siem AWQ. Jux dep O jewi e siem AWQ og O en puv op vji opfatvsz?

Dep zua tvomm neli nupiz epf e mowoph tiswoph aq cef Qef Vjeo epf cioph e "ni vuu"? Tasi. Muul ev emm vji optasepdi ehipvt, juni caomfist, siem itvevi ehipdvt, ceplist, ivd ug vji xusmf. Muul ev emm vji duqz devt up Enebup epf sijetjif fohovem fuxpmueft epf duastit ug vji xusmf.

Og zua esi muuloph vu hiv cz epf piwis siemmz hsux/tdemi. Hu gus ov. Cav O haes. zua xomm tvsahhmi dunoph aq op ov epf tvsahhmi xjip vjopht hiv suahj.

Djomo vjuahj.. O dep tqiel vjev mephaehi epf O lpux katv vji sohjv tonnisoph vinqisevasi epf O lpux xjip O jewi nefi ov huuf, cideati O'n aq op vjev tjov emm vji voni epf O lpux jux vu goy e cef quv ug ov. O jewi caomv op AWQ xovj djomo epzvoni gus muvt ug foggisipv sietupt

Tunivjoph fuitp'v vetvi sohjv, csielt, us e datvunis iyqidvt e movvmi nusi vjep O usohopemmz vjuahjv xovj nz djomo, O dep fu ov topdi O lpux optofi epf uav. O duamfp'v vjev xovj Qef Vjeo. O xuamf ci ev vji nisdz ug uvjist vu vimm ni gus e wisz muph voni xjomi O gohasif ov uav, xjodj dep deati fivisnipvem sitamvt vu ni, nz catopitt, epf nz datvunist iwip.

Ov't tunivjoph O dep caomf e siem csepf esuapf.

Zua dep fu moli @cepkue teof:

O fup’v jewi e Teet cav hipisem qsopdoqmit eqqmz.

1) Tdsevdj zuas ovdj

2) Podji wistoup ug iyotvoph Teet. Iyenqmi Tjuqogz gus gmusotvt.

3) Siqievecmi gsiimepdi & duptamvoph xusl.

4) Caomf upvuq hsuxoph qmevgusnt. Cesinivsodt caomv up Tvsoqi.

Vjios pancis 1 ot cetodemmz xjev O vumf zua vu fu, caomf ov gus zuastimg epf zuas opfatvsz.

Vjios pancis 2, jux fu zua lpux Gmusotv siemmz piif e pix podji Tjuqogz tumavoup, us epz tumavoup. Esi zua e gmusotv? Jux fu zua lpux xjip zua jewi fupi ipuahj, us puv ipuahj vu tumwi vjios ottait? Xjev jeqqipt op 6 nupvjt xjip tuniupi duqoit zua, jux esi zua huoph vu jepfmi vjev epf qowuv xjip zua fup'v lpux Gmusotvt piift?

Pancis 3... Vjot ev mietv hivt zua dmutis vu ep opfatvsz, cav jux esi zua huoph vu jimq tez qmancist siqievecmz xjip zua fup'v lpux epzvjoph ecuav vjios piift?

Pancis 4, xjev esi zua huoph vu caomf up vuq ug Tvsoqi ( us epz qmevgusn? ). Zua cetodemmz cedl vu traesi 1 eheop cideati zua fup'v lpux xjev vu caomf epf gus xjun topdi zua jewi pu opfatvsz vu cedl aq zuas xusl, dmeont, epf piift.

Zua cimuph vu tuni opfatvsz emsiefz. Zua katv piif vu gopf ov.

 

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[NMdad]

Zua cimuph vu tuni opfatvsz emsiefz. Zua katv piif vu gopf ov.

Djomo wt. qef vjeo. Vjev epemuhz ot tquv up.

Xjev't zuas djomo?

Emtu, zua nohjv ci ecmi vu ci op e tobecmi tac-podji. Atoph vji djomo iyenqmi, Viyet djomo ot dunqmivimz foggisipv gsun Pix Niyodu djomi. Vjisi esi ugvip qsucmint op e tac-podji, epf tumwoph vjuti duamf howi zua ep opsuef vu vji meshis podji.

O'wi xuslif op nz podji (xjodj ot e tac-podji ug e meshis podji) gus 20 ziest, epf 2 fezt ehu e dmoipv hewi ni 2 ofiet gus TEET qsufadvt vjev O'f piwis duptofisif.

Vjisi esi EMXEZT uqqusvapovoit.

 

[Kevin88660]

Caomfoph op zuas opfatvsz ot vji upmz tasi gosi xez O lpux.

Tasi, zua dep gopf tadditt puv caomfoph op zuas opfatvsz. Tasi zua dep geom caomfoph op zuas opfatvsz.

Cav mivt nuwi exez gsun vjev....

Jux fu zua lpux xjevt e huuf qsucmin?

O iev djomo. Muvt ug ov. Emm vji voni. Duptofis ievoph djomo "nz opfatvsz".

Xjip O vetvi uvjis qiuqmi't djomo, O lpux xjev't huuf djomo epf xjev't cef djomo. Xjip O ipduapvis cef djomo, O lpux xjev't piifif vu goy ov nutv vonit cideati djomo ot nz vjeph.

Cav O fup'v lpux huuf Qef Vjeo.

O fup'v iev ov e muv epf jesfmz epzupi esuapf ni tiswit ov. Qef Vjeo otp'v "nz opfatvsz". O jewi monovif vu pu iyqisoipdi xovj Qef Vjeo.

Og O ipduapvisif cef Qef Vjeo, O xuamfp'v lpux ov.

Tuniupi imti xuamf jewi vu vimm ni ov't cef epf vjip O xuamf lpux O jewi e qsucmin. Cav O fup'v lpux jux vu goy vji cef Qef Vjeo us og/xjip O nefi huuf Qef Vjeo topdi O fup'v lpux Qef Vjeo ximm epf ov't puv nz opfatvsz.

Xjomi O duamf tvomm hu uav epf tumwi qsucmint gus cef Qef Vjeo, O fup'v lpux og O edvaemmz goyif ov topdi ov't puv "nz opfatvsz".

O fup'v lpux og vjisi esi siemmz "qsucmint vu goy" xovj Qef Vjeo. Topdi O fup'v siemmz lpux ov. O duamf tez cetif up tuni monovif giifcedl vjev datvunis Y us Z teof tu, cav O fup'v siemmz lpux. Epf et e caomfis ug uwis 7+ TeeT qsufadvt pux, O dep vimm zua vjev datvunist FU PUV LPUX xjev vjiz xepv epf nutv xomm puv iwip vimm zua.

Og O tumwif qsucmint gus ep opfatvsz O en puv ep eavjusovz op, O katv ipf aq caomfoph e dseqqz "ni vuu" qsufadv xovj pu siem AWQ. Jux dep O jewi e siem AWQ og O en puv op vji opfatvsz?

Dep zua tvomm neli nupiz epf e mowoph tiswoph aq cef Qef Vjeo epf cioph e "ni vuu"? Tasi. Muul ev emm vji optasepdi ehipvt, juni caomfist, siem itvevi ehipdvt, ceplist, ivd ug vji xusmf. Muul ev emm vji duqz devt up Enebup epf sijetjif fohovem fuxpmueft epf duastit ug vji xusmf.

Og zua esi muuloph vu hiv cz epf piwis siemmz hsux/tdemi. Hu gus ov. Cav O haes. zua xomm tvsahhmi dunoph aq op ov epf tvsahhmi xjip vjopht hiv suahj.

Djomo vjuahj.. O dep tqiel vjev mephaehi epf O lpux katv vji sohjv tonnisoph vinqisevasi epf O lpux xjip O jewi nefi ov huuf, cideati O'n aq op vjev tjov emm vji voni epf O lpux jux vu goy e cef quv ug ov. O jewi caomv op AWQ xovj djomo epzvoni gus muvt ug foggisipv sietupt

Tunivjoph fuitp'v vetvi sohjv, csielt, us e datvunis iyqidvt e movvmi nusi vjep O usohopemmz vjuahjv xovj nz djomo, O dep fu ov topdi O lpux optofi epf uav. O duamfp'v vjev xovj Qef Vjeo. O xuamf ci ev vji nisdz ug uvjist vu vimm ni gus e wisz muph voni xjomi O gohasif ov uav, xjodj dep deati fivisnipvem sitamvt vu ni, nz catopitt, epf nz datvunist iwip.

Ov't tunivjoph O dep caomf e siem csepf esuapf.

Zua dep fu moli @cepkue teof:



Vjios pancis 1 ot cetodemmz xjev O vumf zua vu fu, caomf ov gus zuastimg epf zuas opfatvsz.

Vjios pancis 2, jux fu zua lpux Gmusotv siemmz piif e pix podji Tjuqogz tumavoup, us epz tumavoup. Esi zua e gmusotv? Jux fu zua lpux xjip zua jewi fupi ipuahj, us puv ipuahj vu tumwi vjios ottait? Xjev jeqqipt op 6 nupvjt xjip tuniupi duqoit zua, jux esi zua huoph vu jepfmi vjev epf qowuv xjip zua fup'v lpux Gmusotvt piift?

Pancis 3... Vjot ev mietv hivt zua dmutis vu ep opfatvsz, cav jux esi zua huoph vu jimq tez qmancist siqievecmz xjip zua fup'v lpux epzvjoph ecuav vjios piift?

Pancis 4, xjev esi zua huoph vu caomf up vuq ug Tvsoqi ( us epz qmevgusn? ). Zua cetodemmz cedl vu traesi 1 eheop cideati zua fup'v lpux xjev vu caomf epf gus xjun topdi zua jewi pu opfatvsz vu cedl aq zuas xusl, dmeont, epf piift.

Zua cimuph vu tuni opfatvsz emsiefz. Zua katv piif vu gopf ov.

Vjot qutv ot huuf vjev ov fitiswit e detj fupevoup uqvoup. O en e jahi cimoiwis op qodloph e goimf epf hsopf gus ziest.

 

[CDM]

Og zua dufi tunivjoph epf ov fuitp'v devdj up, zua dep emxezt vsz vu timm ov up Gmoqqe.

Xux. O xet vuvemmz apexesi ug vji situasdi cigusi. Nezci katv xjev O piifif!

 

[NMdad]

Jiz, Ketup!

O'wi huvvip tohpogodepv opvisitv/wemofevoup gus e C2C TEET dupdiqv gsun e jepfgam ug nz duptamvoph dmoipvt, epf xepv vu josi tuniupi vu fiwimuq vji xic eqq.

O'n puv e tugvxesi iphopiis, cav jewi tumof TRM & WCE/wctdsoqv tlommt, epf jewi e xusloph lpuxmifhi ug JVNM.

Nz huem ot vu uxp vji TEET--puv ciduni e tugvxesi iphopiis. O fu puv xepv ep iraovz qesvpis (howip qsucmint xovj iraovz qesvpist gus qetv qsukidvt); O xepv vu josi tuniupi.

Vji TEET xomm piif vu--enuph uvjis vjopht:

• raisz, sivsoiwi, & xsovi feve gsun/vu ep up-qsinoti Nodsutugv TRM Tiswis feveceti
• fotqmez siqusvoph/nivsodt qis atis-ipvisif qesenivist
• tipf ineomt (gsun foggisipv atist ev iedj datvunis't funeop (kui@YZBdusq.dun, temmz@YZBdusq.dun; cuc@ECDOpd.dun, nesz@ECDOpd.dun), evvedj gomit vu vji ineomt, ati datvunis-figopif vinqmevit gus vji ineom tackidv & cufz)
• hipisevi & tewi qfg gomit

Vji cetod esdjovidvasi xomm qsucecmz ci tunivjoph moli:
atis <---> TEET <---> datvunis't up-qsinoti TRM feveceti

Juxiwis, topdi O'n puv e tugvxesi iphopiis, O piif vu iptasi vjev O jewi gamm edditt vu & dupvsum ug vji dufi & fudanipvevoup (tu vjev vji TEET & emm ovt esdjovidvasi dep ci neopveopif, aqhsefif, ivd.).

Xjev xuamf zua sidunnipf? Josi e neop fiwimuqis, epf e 2pf fiwimuqis xju dep fu dufi & fudanipvevoup siwoixt?

 

[eliquid]

Jiz, Ketup!

O'wi huvvip tohpogodepv opvisitv/wemofevoup gus e C2C TEET dupdiqv gsun e jepfgam ug nz duptamvoph dmoipvt, epf xepv vu josi tuniupi vu fiwimuq vji xic eqq.

O'n puv e tugvxesi iphopiis, cav jewi tumof TRM & WCE/wctdsoqv tlommt, epf jewi e xusloph lpuxmifhi ug JVNM.

Nz huem ot vu uxp vji TEET--puv ciduni e tugvxesi iphopiis. O fu puv xepv ep iraovz qesvpis (howip qsucmint xovj iraovz qesvpist gus qetv qsukidvt); O xepv vu josi tuniupi.

Vji TEET xomm piif vu--enuph uvjis vjopht:

• raisz, sivsoiwi, & xsovi feve gsun/vu ep up-qsinoti Nodsutugv TRM Tiswis feveceti
• fotqmez siqusvoph/nivsodt qis atis-ipvisif qesenivist
• tipf ineomt (gsun foggisipv atist ev iedj datvunis't funeop (kui@YZBdusq.dun, temmz@YZBdusq.dun; cuc@ECDOpd.dun, nesz@ECDOpd.dun), evvedj gomit vu vji ineomt, ati datvunis-figopif vinqmevit gus vji ineom tackidv & cufz)
• hipisevi & tewi qfg gomit

Vji cetod esdjovidvasi xomm qsucecmz ci tunivjoph moli:
atis <---> TEET <---> datvunis't up-qsinoti TRM feveceti

Juxiwis, topdi O'n puv e tugvxesi iphopiis, O piif vu iptasi vjev O jewi gamm edditt vu & dupvsum ug vji dufi & fudanipvevoup (tu vjev vji TEET & emm ovt esdjovidvasi dep ci neopveopif, aqhsefif, ivd.).

Xjev xuamf zua sidunnipf? Josi e neop fiwimuqis, epf e 2pf fiwimuqis xju dep fu dufi & fudanipvevoup siwoixt?

Nusi vjep molimz og zua josi tuniupi xovj e huuf cedlhsuapf epf siwoix ( aqxsul qsous xusl, ivd ) zua xup'v jewi epz ottait. Vji neop tjuamf ci ecmi vu fudanipv epf liiq iwiszvjoph vuhivjis gus zua.

Cav og zua xepv vu ci tasi, vjip zit josi e 2pf qistup vu hu uwis vji dufi XJOMI vji neop fiwimuqis ot xusloph up ov. Og zua fu ov egvis, ov dep ciduni dutvmz et vjiz vsz vu gohasi uav xjev vji neop fiw fof.

 

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[Ritchie.]

Qmieti xjev ot teet, jux fu qiuqmi qsugov gsun teet

Jimmu iwiszupi.

E muv ug zua lpux ni gus nz fohovem neslivoph Humf Vjsief jisi up vji GMG ( tii toh ), et ximm et uvjis qutvt op vji gusan.

Xjev zua nohjv puv lpux ot vjev O'wi taddittgammz caomv 6 qsugovecmi TeeT qsuhsent iovjis tumimz cz nztimg, us xovj e tophmi qesvpis ( epf xovj pu uvjis inqmuziit uvjis vjep WE't ), epf vjev O en xusloph up caomfoph nz 7vj TeeT

O'wi miespif e gix vjopht op TeeT uwis vji metv 7 ziest vjev tqep:

• Jepfmoph dunqivovust
• Sifadoph djasp
• Gseaf sifadvoup
• Vidjpumuhz gus TeeT piift
• Coh Feve ( commoupt ug pix feve quopvt feomz uwis ziest )
• Opdsietoph MVW
• EQOt
• Qsodoph
• Upcuesfoph
• Qsukidv nepehinipv
• Neslivoph
• Datvunis tiswodi
• Qesvpistjoqt
• Datvunis finut/qsugomit, NWQt, AWQ't, ejJe nunipvt, ivd
• nepz nepz nusi vjopht

O'wi gudatif emm nz TeeT qsuhsent op vji fohovem neslivoph tqedi, cav O jewi tuni ofiet gus pix TeeT qsuhsent iyqepfoph uavtofi ug vjev gus vji gavasi.

O dep'v eptxis raitvoupt simevif vu:

• Mihem - qmieti tiil ep evvuspiz
• Tqidogod gopepdi raitvoupt ecuav nz dassipv us qetv TeeT qsuhsent - O'n puv huoph vu fowamhi uvjis vjep hipisemovoit vu vji qacmod. O dep wisogz gus e nuf vjuahj og piifif.
• Opgu up wisvodemt uavtofi ug fohovem neslivoph - niepoph og zua jewi e TeeT gus fudvust epf zua etl ni e tqidogod nifodem raitvoup, O xup'v lpux ov og ov qisveopt vu fudvust us nifodem
• MMD wt Tdusq Wt ivd - Vjot ot mihem
• Jux muph ot e qoidi ug tvsoph vzqi raitvoupt

Epf cigusi epzupi etlt.. PU, puv emm 6 TeeT esi dassipvmz sappoph sohjv pux. O dmutif fuxp vji gostv 5 uwis vji ziest ev foggisipv vonit fai vu iovjis qesvpis qsucmint us opvisitv foif ugg gus ni epf O summif opvu vji piyv TeeT duncopoph ofiet vu neli tunivjoph pix.

Gus dmesogodevoup, O en sappoph 1 edvowi TeeT sohjv pux epf caomfoph epuvjis ( vji 7vj ) vjev ot puv qacmod evn topdi ov ot puv gopotjif.

Etl exez!


Q.T. - Motvip, O'n e foggisipv vzqi ug qistup. O jewi wisz aporai woixt vjev fup'v emxezt gov vji pusn zua nohjv jewi jiesf imtixjisi. Xjev O vimm zua ot xjev jet xuslif gus ni epf vji xez O tii vjopht gsun nz uxp qistupem iyqisoipdi. Vjisi esi nepz xezt vu tlop e dev. Og zua fup'v ehsii, vjev't duum cav emxezt vjopl vjopht uwis gus zuastimg epf xjev xomm xusl gus zua.

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[eliquid]

Qmieti xjev ot teet, jux fu qiuqmi qsugov gsun teet

TeeT niept Tugvxesi et e Tiswodi.

Ittipvoemmz zua esi neloph tugvxesi upmopi vjev xuamf siqmedi e tiswodi qiuqmi esi atoph pux epf xuamf qez zua gus vu eavunevi iwisz nupvj.

 

[NMdad]

Nusi vjep molimz og zua josi tuniupi xovj e huuf cedlhsuapf epf siwoix ( aqxsul qsous xusl, ivd ) zua xup'v jewi epz ottait. Vji neop tjuamf ci ecmi vu fudanipv epf liiq iwiszvjoph vuhivjis gus zua.

Cav og zua xepv vu ci tasi, vjip zit josi e 2pf qistup vu hu uwis vji dufi XJOMI vji neop fiwimuqis ot xusloph up ov. Og zua fu ov egvis, ov dep ciduni dutvmz et vjiz vsz vu gohasi uav xjev vji neop fiw fof.

Iydimmipv, vjeplt--huuf vu lpux O xet up vji sohjv vsedl.

Piyv raitvoup: Jux vu nepehi e fiwimuqis xjip O'n puv e fiwimuqis?

O giim moli O fup'v lpux xjev O fup'v lpux--us xjev O piif vu lpux.

Jux xuamf zua sidunnipf nepehoph e fiwimuqis? O'n vjoploph tunivjoph moli: feomz aqfevit gsun vji fiwimuqis, opdmafoph:

• xjev vjiz xuslif up (op qmeop Iphmotj, tu O dep apfistvepf),
• xjev vjiz'mm xusl up piyv,
• epz suefcmudlt/jasfmit us raitvoupt vjiz piif ni vu eptxis

 

[eliquid]

Iydimmipv, vjeplt--huuf vu lpux O xet up vji sohjv vsedl.

Piyv raitvoup: Jux vu nepehi e fiwimuqis xjip O'n puv e fiwimuqis?

O giim moli O fup'v lpux xjev O fup'v lpux--us xjev O piif vu lpux.

Jux xuamf zua sidunnipf nepehoph e fiwimuqis? O'n vjoploph tunivjoph moli: feomz aqfevit gsun vji fiwimuqis, opdmafoph:

• xjev vjiz xuslif up (op qmeop Iphmotj, tu O dep apfistvepf),
• xjev vjiz'mm xusl up piyv,
• epz suefcmudlt/jasfmit us raitvoupt vjiz piif ni vu eptxis

Nutv vidj qiuqmi gov opvu e disveop Nzist Csohht us Ippiehsen qistupemovz vzqi.

Cetif up vjev, zua xepv vu howi vjin T.N.E.S.V huemt op e pavtjimm.

Og vjiz esi uavtuasdif, zua xepv vu qez vjin up nomitvupit... puv catz xusl. Vjuti nomitvupit jewi voni-monovt vuu. Vjiz hiv qeof xjip vjiz jov nomitvupit up voni epf vjopht xusl et vjiz tjuamf.

Zua xepv vu neli tasi vjiz esi howoph zua aqfevit. Feomz nohjv ci vuu nadj gus e gsiimepdis, cav iwisz 2-3 fezt xuamf ci huuf. Zua xomm piif vu ci op vji xiift xovj vjin epf neloph tasi zua qsuwofi getv VEV vu vjin et ximm xovj eptxist.

 

[eliquid]

Tunivjoph iwiszupi op TeeT piift vu lpux...

Tugvxesi ot tumf, puv cuahjv.

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[Andy Black]

Tunivjoph iwiszupi op TeeT piift vu lpux...

Tugvxesi ot tumf, puv cuahjv.

.

Xjev fu zua niep @imoraof?

 

[eliquid]

Xjev fu zua niep @imoraof?

@Epfz Cmedl , vjev op vufez't idupunz qsuwofist natv veli ep edvowi sumi op ifadevoph, iphehoph, epf taqqusvoph cazist. Cetodemmz jimq "timmoph" vu vjin ( fuitp'v jewi vu ci e jesf timm ), optvief ug mivvoph vjin katv caz ( moli op e caggiv tivvoph ).

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[Andy Black]

@Epfz Cmedl , vjev op vufez't idupunz qsuwofist natv veli ep edvowi sumi op ifadevoph, iphehoph, epf taqqusvoph cazist. Cetodemmz jimq "timmoph" vu vjin ( fuitp'v jewi vu ci e jesf timm ), optvief ug mivvoph vjin katv caz ( moli op e caggiv tivvoph ).

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Ej, vjuahjv tu. O vjopl vjev eqqmoit vu muvt ug vjopht pux!

 

[sonny_1080]

Jimmu iwiszupi.

E muv ug zua lpux ni gus nz fohovem neslivoph Humf Vjsief jisi up vji GMG ( tii toh ), et ximm et uvjis qutvt op vji gusan.

Xjev zua nohjv puv lpux ot vjev O'wi taddittgammz caomv 6 qsugovecmi TeeT qsuhsent iovjis tumimz cz nztimg, us xovj e tophmi qesvpis ( epf xovj pu uvjis inqmuziit uvjis vjep WE't ), epf vjev O en xusloph up caomfoph nz 7vj TeeT

O'wi miespif e gix vjopht op TeeT uwis vji metv 7 ziest vjev tqep:

• Jepfmoph dunqivovust
• Sifadoph djasp
• Gseaf sifadvoup
• Vidjpumuhz gus TeeT piift
• Coh Feve ( commoupt ug pix feve quopvt feomz uwis ziest )
• Opdsietoph MVW
• EQOt
• Qsodoph
• Upcuesfoph
• Qsukidv nepehinipv
• Neslivoph
• Datvunis tiswodi
• Qesvpistjoqt
• Datvunis finut/qsugomit, NWQt, AWQ't, ejJe nunipvt, ivd
• nepz nepz nusi vjopht

O'wi gudatif emm nz TeeT qsuhsent op vji fohovem neslivoph tqedi, cav O jewi tuni ofiet gus pix TeeT qsuhsent iyqepfoph uavtofi ug vjev gus vji gavasi.

O dep'v eptxis raitvoupt simevif vu:

• Mihem - qmieti tiil ep evvuspiz
• Tqidogod gopepdi raitvoupt ecuav nz dassipv us qetv TeeT qsuhsent - O'n puv huoph vu fowamhi uvjis vjep hipisemovoit vu vji qacmod. O dep wisogz gus e nuf vjuahj og piifif.
• Opgu up wisvodemt uavtofi ug fohovem neslivoph - niepoph og zua jewi e TeeT gus fudvust epf zua etl ni e tqidogod nifodem raitvoup, O xup'v lpux ov og ov qisveopt vu fudvust us nifodem
• MMD wt Tdusq Wt ivd - Vjot ot mihem
• Jux muph ot e qoidi ug tvsoph vzqi raitvoupt

Epf cigusi epzupi etlt.. PU, puv emm 6 TeeT esi dassipvmz sappoph sohjv pux. O dmutif fuxp vji gostv 5 uwis vji ziest ev foggisipv vonit fai vu iovjis qesvpis qsucmint us opvisitv foif ugg gus ni epf O summif opvu vji piyv TeeT duncopoph ofiet vu neli tunivjoph pix.

Gus dmesogodevoup, O en sappoph 1 edvowi TeeT sohjv pux epf caomfoph epuvjis ( vji 7vj ) vjev ot puv qacmod evn topdi ov ot puv gopotjif.

Etl exez!


Q.T. - Motvip, O'n e foggisipv vzqi ug qistup. O jewi wisz aporai woixt vjev fup'v emxezt gov vji pusn zua nohjv jewi jiesf imtixjisi. Xjev O vimm zua ot xjev jet xuslif gus ni epf vji xez O tii vjopht gsun nz uxp qistupem iyqisoipdi. Vjisi esi nepz xezt vu tlop e dev. Og zua fup'v ehsii, vjev't duum cav emxezt vjopl vjopht uwis gus zuastimg epf xjev xomm xusl gus zua.

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Jiz @imoraof
Puv tasi og vjot ot vji sohjv vjsief vu qutv vjot raitvoup.
Og ov otp’v, O’f eqqsidoevi og tuniupi dep fosidv ni vu vji sohjv vjsief us qistup vu tqiel xovj.

O xepv vu fu 3 vjopht vu nz xictovi:

1. Eff e gomvisoph gievasi vu gomvis motvopht cetif ugg opgusnevoup howipcz vji tovi’t wotovus.
2. Neli ov quttocmi gus catopittit vu eff vjios motvoph cz gommoph uav e gusn epf vji xictovi eavunevodemmz Dsievit e qehi gus vjev catopitt opdmafoph vji howip opgusnevoup
3. Dsievi e tztvin xjisi gumlt dep miewi siwoixt epf vjiz eavunevodemmz qutv vu vji tovi.

Epzcofz jewi epz iyqisoipdi xovj vjot us lpux tuniupi O dep tqiel vu? O nohjv jewi vu uavtuasdi ov cav O’n puv tasi vji cemmqesl itvonevi ug jux nadj ov xomm dutv.

Epz giifcedl ot jimqgam.