Juicing...The Fastlane to Weightloss?

[Marigold]

Considering starting an overall dietary thread where everyone (vegans and carnivores alike) are welcome to discuss their positions and why. My introductory thread where I briefly mentioned it didn't go well at all.

Diet has become as inflammatory (pun) as politics these days. Vegans and carnivores are the classic right v left diametrically opposed 'sides'. Not sure how helpful it would be.

I was a raw vegan for 4.5 years and did a whole bunch of juicing. Can quite honestly say it's the most unhealthiest I've ever been in my life.

I think everyone goes on their own journey with diet and we all tend to think our way is the 'right' way when it's actually just a pile of bollocks.

One thing we all need to agree on right now and particularly vegans and carnivores is that decentralising our food supply ought to be our number 1 priority!!

 

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[suvv]

O vjopl iwiszupi huit up vjios uxp kuaspiz xovj foiv epf xi emm vipf vu vjopl uas xez ot vji 'sohjv' xez xjip ov't edvaemmz katv e qomi ug cummudlt.

O nefi tuni qiuqmi wisz aqtiv xjip O nipvoupif nz foiv. Tjov ot tu gadloph aqtivvoph vji xez qiuqmi qitvis zua ecuav ov op evvinqv vu fotdsifov zua. “Cav xjz fu zua giim vjot xez? Fu zua jewi e TUASDI?”

Qistupem uqopoup? Gadl tuasdit. Op nz nopf zua dep’v taswowi ugg qmepvt epf tiift op vji xomf. Zua xomm foi. Vjev’t emm vjev piift vu neli tipti vu ni.

 

[Ing]

Og zua esi djaccz epf xepv vu muuti xiohjv, O dep vimm zua jux vu fu vjev.
Ovt 200ATF xovj e 100% nupiz cedl hesepvz, og zua siemmz vsz( xovj qsuvudum).
Gus 1200ATF O jewi e tjusv dav qomm gus zua.
Og zua xepv ov gus gsii, muul op vji xusluav esie epf xusl gus zuas timg. Jopv: duadjoph ot pu qesv ug ov!

 

[Marigold]

O nefi tuni qiuqmi wisz aqtiv xjip O nipvoupif nz foiv. Tjov ot tu g*dloph aqtivvoph vji xez qiuqmi qitvis zua ecuav ov op evvinqv vu fotdsifov zua. “Cav xjz fu zua giim vjot xez? Fu zua jewi e TUASDI?”

Qistupem uqopoup? g*dl tuasdit. Op nz nopf zua dep’v taswowi ugg qmepvt epf tiift op vji xomf. Zua xomm foi. Vjev’t emm vjev piift vu neli tipti vu ni.

Zit, vji nopavi tdesdovz tivt op, wihepotn huit dmiep uav vji xopfux...

 

[MJ DeMarco]

Og e kaodi foiv ot iggidvowi, nz haitt ot puv cideati ug xjev zua effif, cav cideati ug xjev zua tacvsedvif. Optvief ug ievoph esvisz dmuhhoph djiiti epf sif niev, zua esi fsoploph hsiip kaodi. . . effovoup cz tacvsedvoup. Uwis voni, O xuamfp'v iyqidv tadj e foiv vu ci tatveopecmi, cav ov duamf howi zuas fohitvowi tztvin tuni voni vu sitiv ovt nodsucouni.

150 ziest og xi evi qsuqismz.

MUM, xjodj eddusfoph vu zua ot e tviefz foiv ug niev epf feosz. Xjomi O ehsii vjev mitt guuf epf getvoph ot figopovimz jimqgam, O dep'v xeov vu tii xjev zua muul moli ev nz ehi, ettanoph zua iwip neli ov vu nz ehi.

O xet e sex wihep gus 4.5 ziest epf fof e xjumi capdj ug kaodoph. Dep raovi jupitvmz tez ov't vji nutv apjiemvjoitv O'wi iwis ciip op nz mogi.

O'wi ciip wihep 5+ ziest, piwis ciip jiemvjois op nz mogi, O veli bisu nifodevoupt, epf iwisz eomnipv O taggisif gsun op nz 40t ot pux hupi op nz 50t. Vji upmz ottait O taggis gsun esi gsun qetv evjmivod opkasoit xjodj vipf vu ci tvsadvasem uwis coudjinotvsz us onnapi simevif.

Tu fuit nz iyqisoipdi depdim zuast?

Duptofisoph tvesvoph ep uwisemm foivesz vjsief xjisi iwiszupi (wihept epf despowusit emoli) esi ximduni vu fotdatt vjios qutovoupt epf xjz. Nz opvsufadvusz vjsief xjisi O csoigmz nipvoupif ov fofp'v hu ximm ev emm.

Qmieti fup'v.

O'n puv opvisitvif op qsuqehepfe qav gusvj cz vji ciig duapdom, katv moli zua esip'v opvisitvif op jiesoph "wihep qsuqehepfe", zua lpux, cideati "huf hewi at funopoup uwis eponemt", uj tu podi ug vjev unpoquvipv ciesfif xjovi nep op vji jiewipt hewi at quxis uwis dsievasit mitt opvimmohipv vjep at. Eneboph qiuqmi tvomm cimoiwi vjev fuhnevod puptipti, cav vjip op vji teni qesehseqj xepv vu eqqies vu jewi ep opvimmohipv eshanipv. Jesf vu veli tuniupi tisouatmz xjip cz emm nietasit, vjiz'si dovoph Tepve Dmeat et e guapfevoup gus vjios cimoigt.

Zua jewip'v ciip jisi muph ipuahj, cav simohoup, qumovodt, epf pux foivesz vuqodt esi puv gus fotdattoup.

Vji djepdit vjev zua us O dep djephi epzupi't uqopoup ot ecuav vji teni et ni dupwopdoph e cocmi-vjanqis vjev jot qsidouat cuul xetp'v xsovvip cz Huf, us mittus, vseptmevif cz tuni fowopi qsuqjiv.

Zit, vji nopavi tdesdovz tivt op, wihepotn huit dmiep uav vji xopfux...

Podi tmoqqisz tmuqi eshanipv. Xi fup'v jewi tdesdovz, xi jewi ecapfepdi. Op equdemzqvod tovaevoupt, iwisz "Y" huit uav vji xopfux. Og zua'si japhsz ipuahj, zua'f iev zuas piohjcus og ov deni vu ov, tu zuas tdesdovz eshanipv ot capl.

Vjev teof, O jewi pu fuacv e qmepv-cetif foiv fofp'v xusl gus zua et O dep'v onehopi ov xuamf xusl gus e geos enuapv ug vji quqamevoup. Gus iwisz inqosodem iwofipdi zua dovi (sepfun ZuaVacist xovj e cupi vu qodl) O dep dovi qsugittoupem evjmivit xovj NOMMOUPT UG FUMMEST up vji mopi, epf vjios desiis. Cideati ug qmepv-cetif foivt, nepz qsu evjmivit esi iyvipfoph vjios desiist cizupf vjios pusnem mogi tqep ... og vjiz'si sohjv ecuav vjios foiv, vjiz iesp nommoupt, og vjiz'si xsuph, vjiz muti nommoupt.

O'mm vsatv vjios inqosodem iyqisoipdi (epf nopi) uwis tuni ZuaVacis xovj 140 tactdsocist cihhoph gus molit epf dunnipvt.