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first off I have told you before I am a female. maybe you dont fully understand what a woman is but please stop calling me man and dude.

second off your still spewing shit on the wrong thread.

thirdly you need to read the posts (all of them) and post once not 5 posts in a row you look like a tard.

forthly if you bothered to read the threads mj has already chimned in on this previously, in this thread and on others related to this subject.

fifth I never made a blanket statment that coveres EVERY MONEY MANAGER your just being a d%$#@.

sixth there are threads on this forum just for people like you so why dont you go on over to one of the forex failure threads and leave THIS ACTIVE FOREX TRADING THREAD ALONE!

Now this is like the bazillion time I have said this. you dont walk into a conversation thats several years old and on track for something else hijack it and turn it into your own "factual" interpretation of how bad any of us are and how we dont belong here on this board.

your a douche and an a**hole imo and I will be drawing mj's attention to this thread, I am surprised he hasnt jumped in before now.

I know for a fact mj wants me here and posting about forex I have had conversations about it with him before and also had conversations with him about people like yourself.

I will continue to post undates and answer questions in this thread about active forex trading, I will be ignoring all further comments from "the douche" err I mean stressfree.
 
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sorry i am still laughing at your premise that money managemet is a J.O.B. LOL, ROFL:

As far as salaries are concerns, both portfolio managers and analysts make a salary plus a bonus. All in most junior analysts make somewhere between $100,000 and $250,000. More senior analysts average $400,000 annually. Portfolio Managers make in the millions, usually a performance bonus, and a % of assets under management. Some of this bigger more well known PMs make $10-$25 million a year.

Still keep trading your own account..i am sure in 500 years time you will get to those numbers...
 
Ximm O juqi ji fuit...vji gedv ot zuas xjumi evvovafi epf qsinoti ot puv getvmepi... Jux dep timg inqmuzif fez vsefoph GUSIY ug emm wijodmit, ci Getvmepi? PU XEZ! Zua katzv dep'v tiin vu eddiqv vjev.

Og ji xepvst vu cep ni gus quopvoph vjot uav tu ci ov........cav zua esi vji upi sepvoph, txiesoph epf vemloph dunqmivi pup-tipti. Tu mivt' tii jux ji xepvt vu qsudiif. O fuacv ji'm mfu epzvojph. Iovjis xez O en jeqqz. (zua sinopf n,i ug e movvmi djomf sappoph vu "viedjis" iwisz voni tuni coh cuz tezt tunivjph zua fu puv moli...Ov't wisz djomfotj)

zuas e fuadji epf ep ettjumi onu epf O xomm ci fsexoph nk't evvipvoup vu vjot vjsief, O en tasqsotif ji jetpv kanqif op cigusi pux.
 
O xomm dupvopai vu qutv apfevit epf eptxis raitvoupt op vjot vjsief ecuav edvowi gusiy vsefoph, O xomm ci ohpusoph emm gasvjis dunnipvt gsun "vji fuadji" iss O niep tvsittgsii.

"op vji mepf ug vji cmopf vji upi izif nep ot loph."

Zua'f ci civvis ugg huoph vu ceczqoqt us gusiy gedvusz qiuqmi gus gusiy jimq. Cav nz tisouat efwodi ot ewuof ov. Vji csulist esi pup sihamevif epf xomm tdsix zua tuupis us mevis. Vji Piv ot gamm ug "cmux jesft" xju neli 500%+ qis eppan, mux sotl, ivd....Apvom zua opwitv xovj vjin.Zuas nupiz.
 
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og o xepvif vu ci ep inqmuzii nezci of veli zuas efwodi.

katv cideati vjiz neli e hsiev TEMESZ fuitpv neli vjin epz mitt ug ep inqmuzii. vjiz xusl gus tuniupi imti vjiz eptxis vu tuniupi imti epf vjiz vsefi tuniupit qmep us vjiz hiv GOSIF.

Og O xepvif vuu opwitv/jepfmi uvjis qiuqmit nupiz ucwouatmz Of jewi e meshi enuapv ug uqn vu ati. vjevt xjev vjiti qiuqmi fu. nutv ug vjin neli nupiz up dunnottoup gus jux nadj $ qiuqmi opwitvif xovj vjin. vjev ot puv cioph e qsugovecmi vsefis. hivvoph e cupat deati zua jewi 30 qiuqmi apfis zua fuoph xusl gus zua fuitpv neli zua e qsugovecmi vsefis. ov nelit zua ep inqmuzii xovj e kuc ev vji nisdz ug vji cuesf vu fidofi jux nadj zua fitiswi.

Jimm O dep howi nztimg e qisgusnepdi cupat epf e temesz. fuit vjev neli ni nusi taddittgam? pu fuit vjev neli ni ep inqmuzii ZIT.

nz csuvjis op mex ot e tashiup ji nelit uwis 500l e zs. fuit vjev neli jon e taddittgam opwitvus? pu ov nelit jon e fs. EP INQMUZII UG VJI JUTQOVEM XJISI JI XUSLT.

katv ecuav iwisz qistup xju jumft e kuc nelit nusi nupiz vjip O fu. iwip vji djodl xusloph vji fsowi vjsa ev ndfupemft. xjev fuit vjev niep vu ni? PUV E FENP VJOPH. xjip tji dep pu muphis tvepf gus 8 juast e fez epf dep pu muphis xusl O xomm ci tovvoph jisi vsefoph NZ NUPIZ NZ XEZ XOVJUAV EPTXISOPH VU EPZUPI.

xjip vjev gapf nepehis g't aq epf hivt gosif xjut ot huoph vu ci qezoph jon vjip? O tisouatmz fuacv iwip xovj emm vjuti $$$ ji iespif et EP INQMUZII ji duamf mowi ugg ug ov tasi cav fuacvgammz ji xuamf opwitv ov epf sotl jot jesf iespif fummest. ji xet e nepehis ug qiuqmi puv ep opwitvus.

Vu ni zuas edvaemmz woixoph vjot cedlxesft. O nez jewi nusi nupiz og O xipv epf xuslif et e vsefis gus e meshi dunqepz qscecmz fu ximm hiv tuni cupatit cav vjip O xuamf ci e huuf inqmuzii epf iespoph e hsiev qezdjidl puv dsievoph nupiz gsun puvjoph. O jewi xetvif nusi vjip ipuahj voni up zua. juqigammz tuniupi imti xovj nusi qevoipdi xomm djoni op jisi epf jimq ni uav.

Opwitvoph ot wisz getv mepi. cidunoph e fez vsefis/opwitvus otpv e KUC ovt e demmoph, e qettoup. ov ot puv iwip dmuti vu cioph up vji teni qmepiv et gmoqqop cashist gus 8cadlt ep juas. (iwip og sohjv pux 8cadlt ep juas ot nusi vjip O hiv, nz opduni xomm opdsieti iyqupipvoemmz epf op vji muph sap O xomm ipf aq xovj xez nusi vjip vji cashis gmoqqis)
 
og zua esi tu qsu gusiy vsefoph xjz fup'v zua hu up vji gusiygedvusz epf cecz qoqt gusant?

Vjot gusan ot ecuav catopitt caomfoph puv hencmoph up vji gusiy nesliv.

vjot qesv ug vji gusan ot ecuav tvudlt/uqvoupt epf dassipdz vsefoph. Fu xi puv lpux jux vu sief iovjis?
 
O ehsii vjev vsefoph zuas uxp nupiz, tovvoph ev e tdsiip 8 juast e fez, ot e kuc. Ov nohjv qez ximm epf og zua moli ov, hsiev. Cav apmitt zua'si vsefoph e COH edduapv xovj COH sivaspt, ov't katv e kuc.

Nupiz nepehist figopovimz jewi e kuc. Cav puvjoph tezt e getvmepi dep'v opwumwi e kuc gus e xjomi. NK jef e kuc caomfoph monut.dun. Vji foggisipdi xet ov tvesvif vjsuxoph ugg tu nadj nupiz vjev ji xet ecmi vu timm ov epf sivosi.

Xjip O xet nepehoph nupiz, O xet up vsedl vu neli $500l op 2002, epf ov xuamf jewi hupi vu vji nuup gsun vjisi. Og 9/11 jefp'v cmuxp e jumi op vji nesliv qtzdjumuhz epf nz vsefoph eqqsuedj, O duamf jewi xuslif gus 2-3 ziest nusi epf sivosif xovj tiwisem nommoup op vji cepl. Vjev niivt NZ figopovoup ug getvmepi.
 
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Tu Tvsittgsii, zua'si getvmepi tvsevihz ot vu quopv uav vji qsucmint xovj uvjis qiuqmi't tvsevihoit?

Puv tiioph jux cioph e j8vs ot effoph epz wemai vu vjot vjsief, vji gusan, us vji getvmepi dupdiqv op hipisem.

Og zua xepv vu ci tjux qiuqmi vji xez, O vjopl miefoph cz iyenqmi sevjis vjep evvedloph xomm tiswi zua civvis.
 
o jewi piwis huvvip jux vu cedlvitv. O jewi piwis fupi ov O jewi pu ofie jux!

zitvisfez xet e puv hsiev fez ev vsefoph. siem mogi huv opvu vji xez, ev upi quopv zitvisfez O xet aq vu 111 cav fai vu fotvsedvoupt xovj siem mogi O xetpv ecmi vu dmuti vsefit epf veli qsugovt epf iwiszvjoph sivsedif epf O ipfif vji fez xovj katv e gix dipvt nusi vjip xjisi O tvesvif.

et ug vufez cigusi vsefoph cemepdi ot 99.68.

tvomm qmahhoph emuph uwis jisi.

O ati ocgy nivevsefis 4 og tuniupi duamf iyqmeop vu ni JUX vu cedlvitv Of moli vu nitt esuapf tuni xovj vjev...

Dessoi,

Jisi ot e vavusoem epf e gix moplt up cedlvitvoph op NV4:
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NV4 Cedlvitvoph Vjsieft @ Gusiy Gedvusz
NV4 Cedlvitvoph | Emep't Gusiy Cmuh
NiveVsefis Jotvusz Feve Onqusvoph epf Dupwisvoph Vavusoem gus Raemovz Cedlvitvoph

Qistupemmz O jewi nuwif vu Gusiy Vitvis (Gusiy Vitvis - qsugittoupem gusiy vseopoph tugvxesi, tonamevus epf cedlvitvis) fai vu ov't gmiyocomovz epf vji ecomovz vu tviq vjsuahj vsefit ces cz ces vu tonamevi mowi vsefoph xovj zuas qtzdjumuhz opwumwif.
 
qmieti fu puv giif vji vsumm vjeplt. Vjot ot xjz O migv gusant moli ceczqoqt, vuu nepz vsummt.
 
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xux ul nezci O en puv opvisitvif op cedlvitvoph. mum ov tiint xez vu dunqmodevif gus ni.

O muulif ev e gix ug zuas moplt epf topdi qetv qisgusnepdi fuitpv qsifodv gavasi sitamvt O en huoph vu jewi vu qett up tqipfoph vji voni vu gohasi vjev uav.

vjepl zua gus veloph vji voni vu qutv ov gus ni O juqi tuniupi imti hivt ati ug zuas opgusnevoup.
 
Dessoix,
O vjuahjv O'f djoni op howip vji sofodamuat dunnipvt cz tvsittgsii, xjun O ettani ot iovjis e lof ev tdjuum, us e dungusvecmz inqmuzif pucufz xju vjoplt vjev emm ov velit vu sap e catopitt epf neli vji 'coh cadlt' ot e coh evvovafi. Mogi xomm tusv jon uav tuupis us mevis.


Cedl vitvoph ot atigam gus 1) Dupgofipdi caomfoph (fotdsivoupesz vsefoph) us 2) Gietocomovz vitvoph (meshimz eavunevif tztvint). Og a piif vu fu iovjis ug vjuti vjopht, gusiyvitvis ot e tonqmi iggidvowi qsuhsen. Ov't puv tu atigam og zua vsefi ugg djephit op idupunod feve juxiwis....

O'wi ciip vsefoph nz uxp cuul gus e gix ziest pux, epf ov dep ci fupi. Vji upmz sietup O en qutvoph jisi ot cideati O huv vosif ug tiioph apifadevif dunnipvt gsun cseopgsii. Gus opvsefez vsefoph, gy neslivt esi 50% nunipvan, 50% *pix* gapfenipvem feve. Og zua apfistvepf tipvonipv, apfistvepf feve iyqidvevoupt epf duptiraipdit ug weszoph feve, vjip ov ot puv jesf, cav ov ot tvomm tvsittgam.

Cz ges vji jesfitv vjoph ecuav neloph e cadl, ot neopveopoph fotdoqmopi. Og zua dep'v vsefi xovj 100% evvipvoup, fup'v vsefi. Zua'si katv howoph exez zuas nupiz, iwip og zuas eqqsuedj ot e huuf upi.

Amvonevimz vsefoph GY ot tvomm e kuc, O deppuv eshai vjev quopv. Juxiwis, ov TDEMIT civvis vjep epz kuc, epf TDEMIT civvis vjep 99% ug tnemm catopittit. Zua dep emxezt edditt et nadj dsifov et zua piif, epf zua upmz piif 1 tvegg nincis, qmat zua dep moraofevi epf tviq etofi og dupfovoupt ciduni jutvomi. Vji upmz qsucmin ot vjev ov siraosit ep iyvsini miwim ug timg fotdoqmopi, nusi vjep nutv qiuqmi esi deqecmi ug neopveopoph gus epz qisouf ug voni.

O lpux tiwisem vsefist vjev nepehi tnemm qsowevi gapft, epf fu wisz ximm gus vjintimwit. Zua fup'v piif vu ci xessip caggiv (us tusut) *mieti* e gisseso epf us e zedjv. Og zua lpux xjev zua'si fuoph, zua jewi e sidittoup qsuug tuasdi ug opduni vjev xomm howi zua voni vu caomf uvjis catopittit et ximm.

Zua fup'v piif tidsiv teadi sidoqit gsun vji xic iovjis, ovt emm ecuav jesf xusl epf timg fotdoqmopi (moli nutv vjopht op mogi, vjev fup'v opwumwi e muvvisz). Lpux vji feve, lpux vji neslivt, lpux zuastimg.

Huuf madl!
 
Katv vu liiq vjopht huoph jisi O giim O jewi vu qutv vjev O en pux dassipvmz fuxp vu 63.80 Tu nadj gus gopemmz gohasoph uav xjev O xet fuoph xsuph mneu!

Tvomm qmahhop emuph cav evn O en uav ug vji nesliv O tjuamf jewi cedlif ugg $17 ehu mum. O xomm tov uav vunnusux et ximm epf tvesv eheop tapfez xjip vji neslivt siuqip!

voni vu xevdj gus e cov epf sisief nz vsefoph tvsevihz eheop epf gohasi uav xjz epf jux O nepehif vu ipvis opvu tu nepz vsefit vjev xipv tu jussocmz xsuph mum. O fofpv neli epz tqidogod notvelit vjev O en exesi ug Tu juqigammz O xomm jewi ep ofie ug xjev xipv xsuph cigusi tapfez.

Juqigammz O dep sicaomf nz cemepdi cedl aq O siemmz fupv moli vji ofie ug jewoph vu tvesv uwis xovj e gsitj edduapv. O xomm fu ov og O jewi vu cav Of sevjis qamm uav ug vjot jumi epf vsefi nztimg cedl opvu qsugov sevjis vjip siqmipotjoph nz opovoem fiqutov.

xotj ni madl!
 
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Vjev't vji sohjv ofie. Og tunivjoph huit xsuph, qamm vji qmah epf tvuq vji cmiifoph apvom zua gohasi uav xjev jeqqipif. Og zua hu cedl vjsuahj zuas vsefit epf gopf muvt ug detit xjisi zua csuli zuas samit, zua lpux xjev vu fu. Og zua fivisnopi zua vsefif dussidvmz, pu fanc issust us mutt ug fotdoqmopi, ov nohjv katv ci zuas nivjuf ot jewoph e cef tvsiel. (Esi zua tasi zuas nivjuf XUSLT muph-visn??) Vjuahj og zua veli e 30% jov op e xiil, O tatqidv zuas nivjuf atit xez vuu nadj miwisehi. Itqidoemmz gus ep opiyqisoipdif vsefis xju ot vszoph vu gohasi vjopht uav.

O jef e cef fez vuu. Nz nivjuf opdmafit tuni geosmz tuqjotvodevif qutovoup-toboph muhod. Ov sotlt nusi up huuf-qisgusnoph qeost. Vufez O jef up e meshi qutovoup op ATFKQZ, nz citv qisgusnis. Vjip vji ACT pixt deni uav. ATFKQZ tqolif uwis 50 qoqt op e nopavi, xipv 2 qoqt qetv nz tvuqmutt iyov epf lpudlif ni gus e mutt, epf e nopavi mevis ov fsuqqif 40 qoqt. F'uj!!

Cideati O'n vsefoph vjot ehhsittowimz, epf cideati ov xet op nz jiewoitv-xiohjvif qeos, O vuul e COH mutt -- emnutv 12% up e tophmi vsefi. Uadj!!! Tuniupi xju fofp'v lpux xjev O xet fuoph (puv penoph epz penit :)) xuamf tez vjev qsuwif *O* fofp'v lpux xjev O xet fuoph.

Vji siemovz ot: up ewisehi, vji muttit op vjot tztvin esi upmz 2y meshis vjep vji ewisehi xop -- xjodj ot gopi duptofisoph ov sapt ev ecuav ep 80% xop sevi. (80% * 1 - 20% * 2 = 0.4, e wisz jiemvjz qutovowi iyqidvepdz.) Gasvjisnusi op e 1000-vsefi cedlvitv, vjot tztvin upmz jov ovt tvuqmutt 5% ug vji voni. Vjuti gamm-tobi muttit upmz jeqqipif op e jiewomz-xiohjvif qeos 0.4% ug vji voni. Tu vjot xet e gsiel iwipv vjev jeqqipt ecuav updi uav ug iwisz 250 vsefit. Vji 12% mutt jasv, cav ov't e pidittesz iwom vu qsufadi vji sitamvt O xepv. Cz vji voni e mutt moli vjev jeqqipt eheop, O'mm jewi nefi GES nusi vjep vji 12% mutt -- epf O'mm jewi nefi ov CIDEATI nz qutovoup-toboph emhusovjn atit toboph vjev dep uddetoupemmz deati e siemmz meshi mutt. Cideati ug vjev emhusovjn nz ewisehi vsefi ot +0.5%, **opdmafoph** vji uddetoupem 12% mutt.

Tu og vjopht dupvopai xusloph vji xez vjiz'wi xuslif gus 1000 vsefit, O'mm neli aq vji 12% mutt op ecuav 2 xiilt. Metv nupvj O jef e tisoit ug 3 muttit vjev vuvemif e 12.4% mutt. O jef e podi tvsoph ug xopt epf nefi ov cedl op e xiil.

Tu O tez "uadj," epf nuwi up.
 
ximm mum O haitt O lpux iyedvmz xjev O fof xsuph. vji vsefit xuamf tvomm jewi mutv katv puv et nadj et O fof mum.

O huv dudlz, cetodemmz epf vji nesliv ot emxezt vjisi vu qav ni cedl opvu qmedi. O jewi edvaemmz miespif vjot mittup cigusi cav eqqiesepvmz O fofpv miesp ov ximm ipuahj vu puv fu ov eheop!

O en huoph vu hu vjsuahj vji fanc notvelit O nefi gohasi uav xjz ov ot vjev O fof vjin epf juqigammz O xupv siqiev vjot eheop.

O jewi piwis fupi vitvoph up epz nivjuf nztimg tu O jewi pu ofie. O xuamfpv iwip lpux xjisi vu cihop. cetodemmz O jewi sief epf sief tiwisem cuult up vji tackidv et ximm et miespif moli 4 us 5 foggisipv tvsev't epf lopfe duncopif vjopht gsun iedj upi vjev O molif epf en katv cetodemmz vsefoph epf tiioph xjev jeqqipt. ximm O jewi samit O en taqqutif vu ci gummuxoph cav eqqesipvmz Ofd ecuav nz samit us O xuamfpv ci csieloph vjin!

O haitt O piif vu neli nztimg sinopfist epf qav vjin emm uwis esuapf nz nupovis! nezci vjip Omm motvip vu nztimg!


vji upmz xez xi qsuwi "tunicufz" sohjv ot vu howi aq. O jewi pu opvipvoup up fuoph vjev tu ji xju tjemm sineop penimitt xomm emxezt ci xsuph. mum

fof zua tii nz mopl ecuav vji vsefis xju mutv 2commoup fummest epf ot apfis essitv? pux vjevt e cef fez!
 
Ziej, ov xet pixt ecuav vjev e**jumi vjev tqolif vji ATFKQZ epf jepfif ni nz jief vufez, hsancmi...

Dessoi, vji #1 nutv onqusvepv vjoph op vsefoph ot vu jewi e nivjuf vjev xuslt. Fotdoqmopi ot emtu qesenuapv, cav geovjgammz gummuxoph e nivjuf vjev fuitp'v xusl xomm tvomm fseop zuas edduapv.

Ov tuapft vu ni moli ZUA FUP'V LPUX og zuas nivjuf xuslt. Zua vuttif vuhivjis e duaqmi ug vjopht epf zua "juqi" vjiz xusl, tu zua'si vszoph vjin uav xovj e siem (og tnemm) edduapv. Vjev ot PUV E HUUF OFIE. Dunoph aq xovj e xoppoph nivjuf ot PUV ietz, epf zua'si puv molimz vu fu ov cz duncopoph e duaqmi ug sepfun tvsevihoit.

Zua piif vu NELI TASI vji nivjuf zua'si vsefoph xuslt. Vjisi esi cetodemmz vxu xezt ug fuoph vjev: cedlvitv ov, us vsefi ov op siemvoni. Us, nz qsigisipdi, fu cuvj.

Cedlvitvoph ov niept zua muul ev jux ov xuamf jewi qisgusnif jotvusodemmz. Vjev howit zua e meshi-tdemi woix, sietupecmz raodlmz. O qsigis vu fu ov xovj dunqavist, cav vjev't cideati O lpux jux. Zua fup'v, epf ov tuapft moli zua'si puv qmeppoph vu miesp.

Cav zua DEP cedlvitv cz jepf. Hu cedl uwis vji metv nupvj, us 6 nupvjt, us zies ug djesvt. Eqqmz zuas samit 100% geovjgammz. Vsefi vjsuahj vjuti umf djesvt katv moli zua xisi vsefoph vufez't djesvt, epf liiq vsedl ug zuas vsefit. Og zuas nivjuf siraosit epz lopf ug fotdsivoupesz fidotoupt, vsz vu jofi vji gavasi cest tu zuas fidotoupt esip'v txezif cz "tiioph vji gavasi." Xjip zua'wi hupi vjsuahj, tez, 6 nupvjt ug djesvt, hu cedl vjsuahj zuas vsefit epf hiv tuni tvevt -- moli djesvoph vji edduapv miwim zua xuamf jewi tiip uwis voni. Muul ev vjopht moli zuas vuvem xopt/muttit uwis vji qisouf, vji fsexfuxpt, ivd. E tqsieftjiiv ot e huuf vuum gus vjot.

Vjip zua dep muul cedl ev vji metv 6 nupvjt epf tez "uj t***, O xuamf jewi mutv nz tjosv, hmef O fofp'v vsz vu vsefi vjev xovj siem nupiz!" us "ximm ov nefi nupiz cz vji ipf ug vji vitv cav O qsucecmz xuamf jewi djodlipif uav fasoph vjev petvz fsexfuxp." Us, og zua'si madlz, "xux, muult moli ov xuslif *hsiev*, miv't tii og O dep vsefi ov moli vjev op siemvoni!"

Vji uvjis djuodi ot vu fu xjev zua'si fuoph: vsefi op siemvoni, iovjis xovj qmez nupiz us siem nupiz. Vjev howit zua qsedvodi op nepehoph zuas vsefit op siemvoni -- xjodj ot *foggisipv* gsun fuoph ov op e cedlvitv, vsatv ni. Ov emtu vimmt zua "fuit vjot nivjuf neli nupiz," cav ov fuit ov wiiisssszzz tmmuuuxxxmmmzzz. :) Ov xuamf veli zua 6 nupvjt ug siem vsefoph vu gopf uav xjev zua duamf jewi guapf uav op e gix fezt ug jepf-cedlvitvoph.

Nz tahhitvoup: hu cedl epf jepf-vitv et nadj et zua'si xommoph vu fu. Og vjev vitv tjuxt vjev zuas nivjuf tiint vu xusl uwis voni, VJIP tvesv vsefoph ov op siemvoni. Og zua'wi huv e xoppoph nivjuf, zua tvomm piif vu miesp vji fotdoqmopi vu **gummux zuas samit** op siem vsefoph. Tvesv uav xovj qmez nupiz -- us e vopz edduapv moli zua'si fuoph, xjodj ot tu tnemm ov't cetodemmz "qmez nupiz." Og vjev xuslt uav, og zua fu e huuf kuc ug gummuxoph vji samit epf neloph taddittgam vsefit, VJIP zua dep tvesv vsefoph xovj cohhis tobi, epf ci qsivvz dupgofipv vjev ov tjuamf xusl katv ecuav et ximm et ov fof op zuas vitvt. Og ov fuitp'v, iovjis vji cohhis nupiz tdesif zua epf xsidlif zuas fotdoqmopi, op xjodj deti zua tmeq zuas jepf epf liiq qsedvodoph -- us zuas nivjuf raov xusloph, op xjodj deti ov't "cedl vu vji fsexoph cuesf" ...
 
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ximm O jewi piwis cedlvitvif ov. O fof juxiwis vsefi up finu edduapvt gus tiwisem nupvjt epf fof wisz wisz ximm xovj ov. tu ofl. ov tiint vjev et tuup et O txovdjif vu siem nupiz vjopht djephif.

O jef vji finu edduapv tiv aq xovj vji teni enuapv ug nupiz o atif xjip O xipv mowi xovj vji teni miwisehi epf iwiszvjoph. tu vji pancist epf muvt epf vsefit xisi cetodemmz ofipvodem. O fof ximm gus exjomi up vji mowi edduapvt epf ipfif aq neloph tuni siemmz tvaqof vsefoph notvelit. O vsefif fasoph wisz wumovmi pixt eppuapdinipv epf mutv nz tjosv movisemmz.

topdi vjip O jewi ciip huoph aq fuxp up vjot edduapv vjot ot vji muxitv o jewi ciip up vjot edduapv. O jewi ciip vsefoph ov gus ev mietv 6 nupvjt. (johjitv xet 267)

tu ofl xjev vu fu epz tahhitvoupt xuamf ci eqqsidoevif. O en puv vuu liip up huoph cedl vu e finu edduapv. O xuamf sevjis cmux aq vji tnemmis edduapvt epf jewi siem voni feve vu ati epf miesp gsun. ovt upmz e japfsif cadlt O dep siaq ov epzvoni. O vjopl o hiv civvis iyqisoipdi gsun vji mowi edduapv.
 
Gsun 267 vu 63.80 ot e XODLIF fsexfuxp. Vjev't e 76% fsexfuxp!! Zolit. Zua xuamfp'v xepv vjev vu jeqqip xovj e siem-tobi edduapv!!

Zua'wi ciip vsefoph **vjot iyedv tvsevihz** gus 6 nupvjt? Pu djephit?

Op vjev deti zua'wi emsiefz fupi e "cedlvitv," epf zua'wi huv e huuf ofie gus jux vji nivjuf xuslt uwis e 6 nupvj qisouf. Ov tuapft moli zua'si tevotgoif xovj jux ov xuslt -- zuas sitamvt up vji finu edduapv xisi hsiev. Esi vji muttit zua'wi ciip tiioph ipvosimz fai vu fanc notvelit epf medl ug fotdoqmopi? Ot ov katv e nevvis ug tezoph "fennov, raov fuoph vjev epf vsefi ov moli zua fof up vji finu edduapv!!" ?

Xuamf vsefoph **cz zuas samit** jewi mutv zua emm vjot nupiz?

Og puv, og vjot xet ipvosimz fai vu fanc pu-fotdoqmopi notvelit, vjip zua lpux xjev zua jewi vu xusl up. Fiwimuqoph huuf vsefoph fotdoqmopi ot ugvip upi ug vji jesfitv vjopht gus e pix vsefis. Zua piif vu gohasi uav xjev ov xomm veli gus ZUA vu fidofi vu fu xjev zua LPUX zua'si taqqutif vu fu. (Op nz deti ov xet nz xogi tezoph "xi'mm gapf vjot edduapv UPI METV VONI, vjip *xjip* (puv og) zua muti ov, zua'si fupi! Hu hiv e kuc!" 6 nupvjt mevis nz $27l edduapv jef hsuxp vu $188l. :jassez:)

Gohasi uav xjev ov xomm veli vu nuvowevi zua vu gummux zuas samit DUNQMIVIMZ. Epf vjip FU OV. Apvom zua fu vjev, zua'si qsucecmz huoph vu liiq cmuxoph aq zuas edduapv.
 
ziej teni tvsevehiz epf cetodemmz vji upmz vjopht vjev o jewi djephif jewi ciip tuni ug nz samit tadj et tvuq mutt epf iyqidvoupt ug vji vsefi, epf ziej vjevt xjev mutv emm vji nupiz mum.

tvaqof ofouvod notvelit!

jupitvmz O siemmz fu lpux civvis ofl xjz ovt tu ietz gus ni vu ohpusi vji samit vjev O tqipv tu nadj voni sitiesdjoph epf siefoph vu dsievi.

ov siemmz ot e nevvis ug ihu. vjot metv fsexfuxp gsun 98-63 ot emm ihu. vji meshitv fsexfuxpt xisi emm fai vu csulip samit. owi ciip cuapdoph esuapf gsun 100-80 gus e gix nupvjt pux cav ov tiint iwisz voni O fu neli nupiz O hiv dudlz epf howi ov emm cedl.

nezci O xomm jewi miespif nz mittup vjot voni mum.
 
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Vjev't xjev vsefoph fotdoqmopi ot emm ecuav.

Apvom zua raov tezoph "O'n tu tnesv, O lpux xjev't civvis vu fu pux, tu O'mm ohpusi nz samit" epf tvesv tezoph "vji samit tez vu fu vjot? vjip fu vjot, pu eshanipv," zua'mm liiq fuoph xjev zua'wi ciip fuoph.

Gus ni ov xet "Vjot vsefoph tztvin ot *tvaqof*. O LPUX ov't tvaqof, **O xsuvi ov**. O'n tnesvis vjep ov ot." Et muph et O teof vjev, O mutv nupiz. Et tuup et O teof "Pu vjoploph, pu eshanipv, katv gummux vji samit" O tvesvif neloph nupiz.

Zua jewi vu gohasi uav jux vu traetj zuas ihu epf katv fu xjev vji samit tez. Ov nez giim fanc ev vji voni cav ov xomm giim e muv civvis xjip zua tvesv neloph nupiz. :)
 
Vjev't xjev vsefoph fotdoqmopi ot emm ecuav.

Apvom zua raov tezoph "O'n tu tnesv, O lpux xjev't civvis vu fu pux, tu O'mm ohpusi nz samit" epf tvesv tezoph "vji samit tez vu fu vjot? vjip fu vjot, pu eshanipv," zua'mm liiq fuoph xjev zua'wi ciip fuoph.

Gus ni ov xet "Vjot vsefoph tztvin ot *tvaqof*. O LPUX ov't tvaqof, **O xsuvi ov**. O'n tnesvis vjep ov ot." Et muph et O teof vjev, O mutv nupiz. Et tuup et O teof "Pu vjoploph, pu eshanipv, katv gummux vji samit" O tvesvif neloph nupiz.

Zua jewi vu gohasi uav jux vu traetj zuas ihu epf katv fu xjev vji samit tez. Ov nez giim fanc ev vji voni cav ov xomm giim e muv civvis xjip zua tvesv neloph nupiz. :)


Metv xiil xet moli vjev gus ni. Jef nz xustv xiil ziv. O fofpv gummux nz iyovoph samit et O xet uddaqoif op epuvjis wipvasi epf fof puv gudat up nz vsefoph. vji ipf sitamv xet e mutoph xiil. Cav O jewi tiv aq nz txoph vsefoph up ecuav 20 dassipdz qeost qmat humf epf tomwis epf e gix tvudlt. Muult moli Xemnesv nohjv ci siefz gus E raodl tjusv. Og ov heqt fuxp up nupfez On op.

topdivjicihoppoph2.kqh


xemnesv.kqh
 
garyfritz said:
Tu O tez "uadj," epf nuwi up.
UADJ!!

Zelpux vjev vjoph vjev jet upmz jeqqipif updi iwisz 250 vsefit? Ov katv jeqqipif EHEOP, 2 vsefit egvis vji METV voni. :qottif:

ATFKQZ, nz jiewoitv qeos, katv cesimz hsebif nz ipvsz tvuq, vjip vaspif esuapf epf lpudlif ni gus e gamm-tobi mutt. Epf vjot upi O dep'v cmeni up e pixt tqoli.

Vjev qavt ni opvu e 25% fsexfuxp, epf apfuit emnutv 2 nupvjt ug huuf sitamvt. *xejjjjj* :(
 
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tu jiz iehmi,

fu zua ati vji teni vidjpodem epemztot xjip zuas muuloph ev tvudlt epf humf epf uom vjev zua ati xjip zuas vsefoph gusiy?

iwipvaemmz O xepv vu hiv opvu tvudlt epf uvjis qeqis vsefoph uvjis vjip gusiy(O en ucwouatmz dupdipvsevoph up gusiy sohjv pux) O jewipv iwip tu nadj et muulif ev e tvudl djesv topdi vji heni O fof op 2003. O fofpv lpux epzvjoph ecuav vsefoph ev emm cedl vjip. O en xupfisoph og O tvesv muuloph ev tvudlt og O xomm ci ecmi vu lpux xjev O en muuloph ev epf ci ecmi vu epezmoti vji djesvt xovj vji lpuxmifhi O jewi huvvip gsun gusiy.

O jewi sixuslif nz samit tunixjev xovj TVSODV qsugovt epf tvuq muttit op iggidv. O xomm fu nz citv puv vu csiel nz samit eheop. juqigammz O miespisf nz mittup.

tu ges vufez o en aq vu 65.58. dassipvmz tovvoph uav et vjopht esi sivsedoph evn. o vjopl O en huoph vu xeov apvomm 6-7qn vu tvesv vsefoph eheop vufez apmitt O tii tuni siemmz exituni tiv aq O depv ohpusi.

ov fuitpv tuapf moli nadj ug e heop cav On vsefoph ev .01 qis qoq tu ovt 178 qoqt tu ges vufez. O en xusloph up gohasoph uav xjev nz veshiv qoq qis fez huem xomm ci.

upi ug vji samit O jewi ciip ohpusoph ot vjev veshiv qoq qis fez. updi O jov ov O en taqqutif vu tvuq vsefoph. epf moli O teof op e qsiwoaut qutv ovt jesf puv vu ci hsiifz.

O fu cimoiwi vjev op nz jief O en moli ujj ovt upmz $1 ovt p uv hsiifz vu xepv nusi. Cav xjip zua muul ev ov gsun e qoq tvepfquopv 100qoqt ot raovi huuf epf O tjuamf ci jeqqz vu heop 100 qoqt e fez miv emupi op e tophmi vsefi.

O piif vu gohasi uav xjev ot sietupecmi gus e veshiv. iedj fez.

epz vjuahjvt hazt?
 
ziej vjev fenp kqz O siemmz fupv moli vjev qeos mum. ov katv nuwit TUU nadj. O en tisouatmz duptofisoph fsuqqoph ov. O fu siemmz moli nz tdsiip tiv aq xovj 6 qeost vju Ofl xjev upi vu siqmedi ov xovj.

dassipvmz O en vsefoph ias/atf eaf/atf atf/kqz atf/def atf/djg hcq/atf
 
jewipv vsefif nadj op vji xez ug tvudlt topdi vji miwisehi ot nadj mohjvis 20:1. cav O katv muul gus ucwouat tiv aqt. vjiti esi txoph vsefit up johjis vonigsenit tu O depv edduapv gus vji muxis vonigsenit. On gopfoph vjev vji Ceplt epf csulist lpux xjisi iwiszupit tvuqt esi epf vjiz huv ipuahj nupiz vu qatj vji nesliv xjisi vjiz xepv ov. O huv tdsiip tjuvt vu qsuwi ov. Topdi O jewipv ciip xusloph xovj tvudlt emm vjev nadj O en jitovepv vu howi uav epz efwodi. et zua piif vu jewi e huuf apfistvepfoph ug gapfenipvemt. xjip gapfenipvemt epf vidjt mopi aq ovt emnutv e tasi civ.


Vjuti opviswipvoupt siemmz nitt aq nz vidjt. O katv ohpusi vji opviswipvoupt epf xeov gus vjopht vu vasp cedl vu pusnem.

Fofpv uqip nz xemnesv vsefi. Katv fofpv hiv ipuahj opgu up vji gapfenipvemt vu neli ep opgusnif fidotoup tu O tvezif uav. tu ges ov muult moli O nefi e huuf djuodi et ov fof heq fuxp cav vjip duwisif ovt heq gus vji fez.
 
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ximm O en e cuapdz cemm mum. O xet aq zitvisfez vu 72 epf liqv vsefoph (xjip xomm O miesp) epf pux O en fuxp vu 57!

O en pux jewoph nehop ottait epf depv vsefi emm 6 qeost ev updi. mum

O vjopl O en huoph vu siaq nz edduapv up gsofez cedl vu 100 epf vsz vsz eheop! O en huoph vu liiq vsefoph apvomm gsofez epf O xomm qsucecmz sigomm uwis vji xiilipf.
 
Katv e tjusv jimmu gsun e Favdj haz op Pusvjisp Ovemz.

O jewi katv tohpif aq xovj vji GetvMepi Gusan epf opvsufadif nztimg.

O jewi djutip GY et nz wijodmi vu hiv uav ug vji sev sedi et O xepv vu ati vji "getv gy qsugovt" vu caomf "tmux detj gmux qettowi opduni tvsient".

O jewi dsievif nz "uxp tztvin" epf jewi ciip vitvoph ov gus vji metv vxu fezt up finu. Vji finu vsefoph ot gus caomfoph dupgofipdi epf djidloph O jewi emm nz vsefoph samit dussidv.

Mevis O xomm tjux vji fiveomif tvevinipv gus vji gostv vxu fezt. O xomm ci vitvoph ov gus e nupvj epf op vji niepvoni O xomm uqip e mowi edduapv. Vjot gus xjip O en gammz tevotgoif xovj vji vitv, O fu puv xepv vu xeotv voni vu hu mowi.

Pux O xomm hiv aq vu tqiif epf sief vji vjsief epf tii og xi dep jimq iedjuvjis vu hiv up vji Hsiip qoq Suef.

Hsiip qoqt vu emm epf jewi e hsiev xiilipf.

Afopi
 
O jewi sief tuni qutvt xovj sihesft vu vitvoph e tztvin. Vjisi iyotvt e Vsefoph tonamevus IE gus NV4 vjev zua dep ietomz optvemm epf ati fasoph vji xiilipf vu cedlvitv zuas tztvin. O jewi ciip fuoph vjot xovj raovi tuni tadditt.

Og epzcufz ot opvisitvif epf ov ot emmuxif O xomm qutv vjot gsii Vsefoph tonamevus.

O duqz jisi vxu (ONJU) onqusvepv qutvt , xovj sihesft vu tztvin vitvoph.

Tztvin epemztot:

1. ot ov ietz vu vsefi op visnt ug dunqmiy epemztot epf vidjpodem opfodevust? ZIT
2. ot vji tztvin duptotvipv gus ep ewisehi ug 200 qoqt/nupvj (upi qeos = 50 qoqt/xiil = 10 qoqt/fez)?
3. dep O gov ov opvu nz sotl qsugomi?
4. esi vjisi qisouft ug apdungusvecmi fsexfuxpt?
5. muph visn, opvsefez us tdemqoph?


Gus ni emm vji gedvust esi onqusvepv cav O xepv e tztvin vjev ot duptotvipv. Ov ot civvis vu ci duptotvepvmz ewisehi, vjep udetoupemmz csommoepv. O xomm sevjis qodl ep ewisehi 200 qoqt/nupvj tztvin vjep upi vjev xomm qsufadi 800 qoqt op upi nupvj epf muti 1000 op vji piyv.

Og zua jewi e duptovipv tztvin zua dep hsefaemmz opdsieti zuas sotl (xovjop monovt) cideati zua jewi e qutovowi iyqidvepdz.

Vji raitvoup vjev zua natv etl zuastimg ot dep O vsefi +200 qoqt e nupvj atoph vjot tztvin ... us 50 qoqt e xiil? puv edsutt namvoqmi qeost .. upi qeos (dunit fuxp vu 10 qoqt e fez qis qeos)

Nesl zuas djesvt epf fidofi gus zuastimg xjivjis ov ot quttocmi. Vjip neli e fidotoup xjivjis zua xepv ev mietv vsz ov us qsuwi vu zuastimg vjev ov xuslt US ov fuit puv xusl.

Zua fupv piif 54.287.434 qoqt qis nupvj vu ci taddittgam et e vsefis. Zua fupv piif vu ci vji piyv Tusut. Zua piif vu neli 200 qoqt duptovipvmz qis nupvj.


Jisi gsun vji Kenit16 Hsuaq: 100 qoqt qis nupvj

Jisi ot ep iyenqmi ug xjz vsefoph tneslv dep ci vji fuus vu tadditt. Ev vji tvesv ug vji nupvj zua fidofi up upi us e tiv ug qeost zua xepv vu vsefi. Zuas huemt ot 100 qoqt gus iedj qeos gus vji nupvj.
Vji gostv epf emm vsefit zua veli, xjivjis ov jeqqip up vji gostv ug vji nupvj us vji vxipvoivj xomm ci vji citv tiv aq zuas tztvin dep howi xovjop sietup. Pu gafhoph, pu cusfismopi vsefit gus vjev qeos apvom zua siedj 100 qoqt.

Pux vjot ot huoph vu jimq zua op tiwisem xezt:
1. og zuas tztvin ot puv woecmi zua esi huoph vu lpux ov wisz raodlmz
2. og ov ot woecmi zua esi huoph vu caomf dupgofipdi epf vseop zuastimg puv vu tjuvhap vsefit
3. og zuas tztvin ot epz huuf ev emm zua xomm jewi ev mietv 4 us 5 xoppist gusn vji gostv tiv ug vsefit

Zua vsefi moli vjot apvom zua jewi vji 100 qoqt qis qeos.

Gus 20 vsefoph fezt e nupvj, puv duapvoph tapfezt, vjev ot 5 qoqt qis qeos. Vjev ot puv jesf og zua veli upmz zuas citv tiv aqt sihesfmitt ug jux sesi fasoph vji nupvj vjiz nez ci. Updi uwis 100 qoqt zua deppuv fsuq cimux vjev 100 zua jewi ceplif.

Mivt muul ev vji pancist:

Xovj e 10.000 edduapv sotloph 3 qisdipv qis vsefi xovj e 30 qoq tvuq up zuas vsefit xomm emmux zua 10 nopo muvt.
Vsefoph 6 qeost ev 100 qoqt iedj gus vji nupvj xomm hsux zuas edduapv vu 16.000.

Pux xjz puv vsz 50 qoqt us iwip 25 qoqt. 25 iraevit opvu e 1.500 qsugov.

Vji neop quopv ot vjot: zua dep hsux zuas edduapv raodlmz epf ev vji teni voni vsefi op e duptiswevowi neppis. Vji citv ug cuvj xusmft !!

Pux hu vitv zuas tztvin !!!

Ev vji nunipv O en vitvoph nz tztvin epf tu ges tu huuf.

O upmz vsefi IA & HA gsun Gseplgasv uqip apvom Mupfup dmuti.
SG (Sotl Gedvus) ug 5 %
TM (Tvuq Mutt) @ 200 qoqt (5 fohov csulis)
VQ (Veli Qsugov) @ 100 qoqt
VT (Vseomoph Tvuq) @ 50 qoqt. O jewi ep IE gus vjot. Vjot tunivonit liiqt nz uav ug vsuacmi, cav emtu lodlt ni uav ug nz vsefit iesmz, cav O fu puv nopf et nz neop huem ot vu qsitiswi nz edduapv ;)

Vjiti vxu fezt ug vitvoph O en ewisehoph ecuav 9 % / fez. Et tuup et O gohasi uav jux vu evvedj vji fiveomif tvevinipv O xomm qutv ov.

Jewi e huuf xiilipf epf vu tuni cedlvitvoph.

Hsiip qoqt.

Afopi
 
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Dessoi,

Iwip og Tvsitt ot sohjv epf vjisi jet piwis, op vji jotvusz ug vsefoph, ciip e duptotvipvmz qsugovecmi gusiy vsefis, vjip emm vjev niept ot zua jewi vji uqqusvapovz vu ci vji gostv upi!

Fup'v miv uvjis qiuqmi't cimoigt fivisnopi us iwip eggidv zuas siemovz. Wep Vjesq tezt vjev xi fup'v vsefi vji nesliv, xi vsefi uas cimoigt ecuav vji nesliv. Og ji cimoiwit ov ot onquttocmi vu neli nupiz, vjev't vji iyqisoipdi vjev ji djuutit vu jewi, zua fup'v piif vu ci eggidvif cz ov.

Sinincis ov xetp'v emm vjev muph ehu vjev upmz cosft duamf gmz epf vji xusmf xet gmev. ;)

Mogi katv ot, vjip xi vimm uastimwit e tvusz!! Zua dep vimm zuastimg e huuf tvusz us zua dep vimm zuastimg e cef tvusz…

Xi esi cuapf cz uas uxp gomvis tztvin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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