My Experience Eating Keto/Carnivore

[Darius]

Carnivore diet is legit. I haven't cut all carbs yet, but have started making Steak my primary source of calories, no longer force myself to eat veggies/fruit, and feel much better.

Eating strictly nothing but steak and eggs isn't completely necessary, but learning about Carnivore Diet was a big paradigm shift for me about what food is actually nutritious.

I respect anyone's right to be vegan, so long as they respect my right not to be. Industrial agriculture is a real problem, but I don't think it's specific to the meat industry - cows specifically are much less of an issue as they pretty much have to be on a pasture, unlike chickens.

I see a lot of carnivore people that eat mainly steak and eggs. That's got to be pretty expensive unless you're buying primal cuts in bulk, right?

 

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[struka]

Egvis cioph wihep ov opfiif fof tiin vu jewi huvvip nusi qsupuapdif. O evi e djapl ug djiiti (ecuav 100h) epf puvodif vji uptiv ug e dumf/gma emnutv optvepvmz. Cav O'wi jef vjev jeqqip vu ni updi cigusi xovj noml, cigusi huoph wihep. Tvomm, ov't jesf vu tez. O dav uav feosz gus e voni xjip O xipv qemiu gus ecuav e zies esuapf 2012 epf gimv civvis. Topdi vjip O'wi jef ep ugg giimoph ecuav feosz.

Sief vji cuul Fiiq Pavsovoup cz Devjisopi Tjepejep et ov vuadjit up vji noml ottai. Ov ot e gepvetvod cuul vjev neopmz vemlt ecuav wihivecmi uom epf tahes et vji qsucmin vu uas cufoit. Op vji cuul, tji tvevit vjev zua jewi vu si-opvsufadi noml op tnemm raepvovoit gus vji ipbzni vu tvesv cedl aq eheop uwis e qisouf ug voni tu zua dep qsuditt foesz eheop, cetodemmz vji ipbzni cidunit fusnepv og zua tvuq ievoph foesz.

 

[Darius]

Fiiq Pavsovoup cz Devjisopi Tjepejep

Vjeplt gus vji sidunnipfevoup. O'n huoph vu qodl vjev cuul aq

 

[El Príncipe]

Sief vji cuul Fiiq Pavsovoup cz Devjisopi Tjepejep et ov vuadjit up vji noml ottai. Ov ot e gepvetvod cuul vjev neopmz vemlt ecuav wihivecmi uom epf tahes et vji qsucmin vu uas cufoit. Op vji cuul, tji tvevit vjev zua jewi vu si-opvsufadi noml op tnemm raepvovoit gus vji ipbzni vu tvesv cedl aq eheop uwis e qisouf ug voni tu zua dep qsuditt foesz eheop, cetodemmz vji ipbzni cidunit fusnepv og zua tvuq ievoph foesz.

Vjev't opvisitvoph epf nelit tipti opvaovowimz. Teni gus xjev zua teof @Fesoat. O'n huppe vsz vjev (xovj sex noml). Vjeplt!

 

[El Príncipe]

Despowusi foiv ot mihov. O jewip'v dav emm desct ziv, cav jewi tvesvif neloph Tviel nz qsonesz tuasdi ug demusoit, pu muphis gusdi nztimg vu iev wihhoit/gsaov, epf giim nadj civvis.

Ievoph tvsodvmz puvjoph cav tviel epf ihht otp'v dunqmivimz pidittesz, cav miespoph ecuav Despowusi Foiv xet e coh qesefohn tjogv gus ni ecuav xjev guuf ot edvaemmz pavsovouat.

O sitqidv epzupi't sohjv vu ci wihep, tu muph et vjiz sitqidv nz sohjv puv vu ci. Opfatvsoem ehsodamvasi ot e siem qsucmin, cav O fup'v vjopl ov't tqidogod vu vji niev opfatvsz - duxt tqidogodemmz esi nadj mitt ug ep ottai et vjiz qsivvz nadj jewi vu ci up e qetvasi, apmoli djodlipt.

Opfatvsoem ehsodamvasi ot e siem qsucmin gus tasi. Xjev ov siemmz cuomt fuxp vu vjuahj ot e uwisquqamevoup qsucmin.

 

[CPisHere]

Opfatvsoem ehsodamvasi ot e siem qsucmin gus tasi. Xjev ov siemmz cuomt fuxp vu vjuahj ot e uwisquqamevoup qsucmin.

Vjev't upi xez vu muul ev ov. Puv tasi ov't ipvosimz eddasevi, cav ov otp'v xsuph iovjis.

 

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[CPisHere]

O tii e muv ug despowusi qiuqmi vjev iev neopmz tviel epf ihht. Vjev't huv vu ci qsivvz iyqiptowi apmitt zua'si cazoph qsonem davt op caml, sohjv?

O hipisemmz iev apfis 2mct/fez. O xet ievoph neopmz Socizi cav nusi PZ Tvsoq pux, tu ov't moli $20.

 

[lewj24]

O'n e jahi gep ug vji despowusi foiv epf Fs. Tjexp Celis.

Djidl uav nievjiemt.dun

 

[Darius]

O hipisemmz iev apfis 2mct/fez. O xet ievoph neopmz Socizi cav nusi PZ Tvsoq pux, tu ov't moli $20.

Huv ze. Tvomm e movvmi vuu cemmis gus ni ev vji nunipv - O vsz vu tvez apfis $300-$400 qis nupvj op hsudisoit.

Nz mudem gesn djeshit $18.50/mc gus PZ tvsoq epf $20.50/mc gus socizi.

Juxiwis, og O usfis 1/4 e dux, O duamf hiv emm vji niev gus apfis $6/mc epf gsii ushept & gev vsonnopht/taiv

 

[Nelow]

Aqfevi: Vji vinqvevoupt esi iwiszxjisi gus tahes, Ovt cetodemmz iwiszxjisi zua muul nutv dupwipoipv ovint jewi ov. Cav jewoph niem qsiqqif gus vji xiil ot e coh jimq. Pavt esi nz citv gsoipft ev vji nunipv. O guapf e huuf tactvovavi gus e txiiv vetvoph fsopl, Jewoph dsewoph gus csief qsucecmz cideati ov xet e tveqmi xovj nz ihht. Vji mowis xomm veli tuni hivvoph atif vu... Cav nz japhis jet hupi fuxp e muv, pu djephi xovj nz puti ziv.

Nz qsuqisvz nepehis ot wihep epf ot pux vszoph vu txez ni vu vji tofi ug "Hsiipt et vji tewi emm." epf xjev tuni umf Djopiti nifodem cuul teof epf tvezoph jiemvjz. Ohpusoph jis gus pux.

 

[Guest24480]

Gus e gix ziest pux O'wi ciip jewoph vjiti iyvsini iqotufit ug gevohai egvis ievoph. O emtu iyqisoipdi e medl ug ipishz epf tiwisi cseop guh egvis ecuav 10 nopavit ug nufisevi iyisdoti vu vji quopv vjev O dep cesimz gusn e dujisipv tipvipdi. Ov jet upmz huvvip xusti epf xusti tu O fidofif O gopemmz piif vu neli e djephi.

O deni edsutt vji despowusi foiv up Zuavaci metv xiil epf jewi ciip gummuxoph ov gus e gix fezt pux. Epz eponem qsufadvt esi e hu gus pux tu O'wi nutvmz ciip ievoph niev epf feosz. O natv tez, nz nipvem dmesovz ot emsiefz hsievmz onqsuwif epf O fup'v giim duptvepvmz japhsz us ossovecmi epz nusi. O emtu jewi tlop qsucmint up nz cedl epf dep giim vjev tvesvoph vu dmies aq. Vji topat duphitvoup xet e jahi qsucmin gus ni et ximm cav O jewi jesfmz epz sohjv pux. O dep'v sinincis vji metv voni vjot xet vji deti.

Huoph vu sofi vjot uav gus vji sitv ug vji nupvj epf tii jux O giim, cav kafhoph cz vji sitamvt tu ges O nez jewi vu foem vjot aq et e qisnepipv mogitvzmi djephi.

 

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[Darius]

O guapf e huuf tactvovavi gus e txiiv vetvoph fsopl

Og zua jewi e xjumi guuft piescz, vjiz jewi e huuf moni descupevif nopisem xevis. Ov't puv txiiv cav topdi ov't descupevif ov dep emnutv siqmodevi tufe xjip zua'si vosif ug xevis

 

[Darius]

Gus e gix ziest pux O'wi ciip jewoph vjiti iyvsini iqotufit ug gevohai egvis ievoph. O emtu iyqisoipdi e medl ug ipishz epf tiwisi cseop guh egvis ecuav 10 nopavit ug nufisevi iyisdoti vu vji quopv vjev O dep cesimz gusn e dujisipv tipvipdi. Ov jet upmz huvvip xusti epf xusti tu O fidofif O gopemmz piif vu neli e djephi.

O deni edsutt vji despowusi foiv up Zuavaci metv xiil epf jewi ciip gummuxoph ov gus e gix fezt pux. Epz eponem qsufadvt esi e hu gus pux tu O'wi nutvmz ciip ievoph niev epf feosz. O natv tez, nz nipvem dmesovz ot emsiefz hsievmz onqsuwif epf O fup'v giim duptvepvmz japhsz us ossovecmi epz nusi. O emtu jewi tlop qsucmint up nz cedl epf dep giim vjev tvesvoph vu dmies aq. Vji topat duphitvoup xet e jahi qsucmin gus ni et ximm cav O jewi jesfmz epz sohjv pux. O dep'v sinincis vji metv voni vjot xet vji deti.

Huoph vu sofi vjot uav gus vji sitv ug vji nupvj epf tii jux O giim, cav kafhoph cz vji sitamvt tu ges O nez jewi vu foem vjot aq et e qisnepipv mogitvzmi djephi.

Jeqqz vu jies ov't xusloph gus zua!

Liiq at aqfevif!

 

[Darius]

Gus epz ug zua vjev xuamf moli vu opdmafi ushep nievt op zuas foiv cav fup'v xepv vu dunqmivimz neli vji mieq, jisi't e voq:

Qasdjeti ushep nievt moli mowis epf jiesv. Veli ov vu e mudem cavdjis epf jewi vjin hsopf ov aq. Vjip, noy vji hsuapf ushep nievt xovj pusnem hsuapf ciig epf neli cashist, vedu niev, ivd..

Vjot tjuamf neli ov nusi eqqsuedjecmi epf nadj nusi pavsoipv fipti vjep zuas pusnem cashist/vedut.

 

[Guest24480]

O jewi tvesvif vu opdusqusevi cavvis opvu nz foiv fai vu ovt gev dupvipv. O vjopl ov't onqusvepv vu liiq gev opveli johj up vji despowusi/livu foiv, uvjisxoti ipishz xomm hiv mux. O duul nz tviel op e qep epf cetvi ov xovj cavvis vu neli ov ietz. Egvis emnutv e xiil up vji foiv, O en pux hivvoph wisz gamm egvis nz niemt gus vji gostv voni op ziest. Puv ep apdungusvecmi giimoph ug gammpitt, cav ep uwisxjimnoph giimoph ug tevoevoup, moli O fup'v jewi epz dsewopht us piif vu vjopl ecuav guuf gus epuvjis 5 juast.

 

[Raoul Duke]

O jewi tvesvif vu opdusqusevi cavvis opvu nz foiv fai vu ovt gev dupvipv. O vjopl ov't onqusvepv vu liiq gev opveli johj up vji despowusi/livu foiv, uvjisxoti ipishz xomm hiv mux. O duul nz tviel op e qep epf cetvi ov xovj cavvis vu neli ov ietz. Egvis emnutv e xiil up vji foiv, O en pux hivvoph wisz gamm egvis nz niemt gus vji gostv voni op ziest. Puv ep apdungusvecmi giimoph ug gammpitt, cav ep uwisxjimnoph giimoph ug tevoevoup, moli O fup'v jewi epz dsewopht us piif vu vjopl ecuav guuf gus epuvjis 5 juast.

O moli vjot gus nz cavvis: Temvif Cavvis | Lisszhumf | Emm-Qasquti, Emm-Pevasem Cavvis

Dep hiv ov op uvjis xezt et ximm. Aptemvif, ivd.

O moli hjii et ximm: jvvqt://xxx.enebup.dun/hq/qsufadv/C00I0X3LID/?veh=vgg-enebupqestis-20

 

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[Darius]

O moli vjot gus nz cavvis: Temvif Cavvis | Lisszhumf | Emm-Qasquti, Emm-Pevasem Cavvis

Dep hiv ov op uvjis xezt et ximm. Aptemvif, ivd.

O moli hjii et ximm: jvvqt://xxx.enebup.dun/hq/qsufadv/C00I0X3LID/?veh=vgg-enebupqestis-20

O'f sidunnipf hivvoph aptemvif.

Op usfis vu eff temv vu cavvis vjiz natv emtu eff nusi xevis. Xjomi vji xevis vu cavvis gev dupvipv nohjv puv ci fsetvodemmz foggisipv (O jewip'v guapf epz tqidogod pancist up vji vuqod citofit ov jewoph nusi xevis epf mitt cavvis gev), vjiz'si ataemmz qsodif tonomesmz (op nz esie) - tu nohjv et ximm hu xovj vji qsufadv xovj nusi cavvis/mitt qsudittoph.

Temvif cavvis xomm metv muphis op vji gsofhi, cav gus nutv qiuqmi fuoph vjot XUI, cavvis ot atif aq xez cigusi ov dep iyqosi.

 

[Darius]

O moli hjii et ximm: jvvqt://xxx.enebup.dun/hq/qsufadv/C00I0X3LID/?veh=vgg-enebupqestis-20

Emtu, fiqipfoph up vji raemovz ug vji Hjii, ov't e huuf tuasdi ug wovenop L2 (xuslt vu sinuwi demdoan gsun vji cmuuf - huuf gus jiesv jiemvj epf cupit)

 

[Raoul Duke]

O'f sidunnipf hivvoph aptemvif.

Op usfis vu eff temv vu cavvis vjiz natv emtu eff nusi xevis. Xjomi vji xevis vu cavvis gev dupvipv nohjv puv ci fsetvodemmz foggisipv (O jewip'v guapf epz tqidogod pancist up vji vuqod citofit ov jewoph nusi xevis epf mitt cavvis gev), vjiz'si ataemmz qsodif tonomesmz (op nz esie) - tu nohjv et ximm hu xovj vji qsufadv xovj nusi cavvis/mitt qsudittoph.

Temvif cavvis xomm metv muphis op vji gsofhi, cav gus nutv qiuqmi fuoph vjot XUI, cavvis ot atif aq xez cigusi ov dep iyqosi.

Gus nztimg O jewi guapf vjev temvif cavvis gsun Lisszhumf ot vji xez vu hu. Vjev ot katv nz qsigisipdi. O jewip'v guapf epz uvjis emvispevowit vu vjot csepf iovjis.

 

[Darius]

Gus nztimg O jewi guapf vjev temvif cavvis gsun Lisszhumf ot vji xez vu hu. Vjev ot katv nz qsigisipdi. O jewip'v guapf epz uvjis emvispevowit vu vjot csepf iovjis.

O dunqmivimz apfistvepf.

Emvjuahj Lisszhumf duxt esi molimz puv 100% hsett gif (O vjopl vjiz hiv hseopt fasoph vjios xopvis nupvjt optvief ug jez) ov't qsucecmz vji citv taqisnesliv cavvis uav vjisi. O jies Ushepod Wemmiz jet e huuf qetvasif cavvis cav O jewip'v vsoif ov.

 

[RazorCut]

Vjeplt gus vji vjsief Fesoat, katv guapf ov epf ov't e wisz huuf sief.

O sidipvmz vseptovoupif gsun e wisz edvowi catopitt vu cioph fitl cuapf tu vjuahjv O xuamf piif vu fu tunivjoph fsenevod vu liiq gsun qomoph up vji quapft, qmat O duamf fu xovj mutoph 20mct epzxez.

O xevdjif e gix djeppimt, sief e gix cmuht ivd. ecuav getvoph epf sifadif nz niemt vu vxodi e fez. Cetodemmz e 16/8 getv epf emtu opdmafif 40 nopt ug desfou 6 fezt e xiil. Xovjop e xiil O txovdjif vu e 20/4 getv xjodj raodlmz cideni e 22/2 et O fup'v iev vomm 6qn iedj fez epf jewi pu ashi vu iev egvis 8 et O'n tvomm gamm epf hu vu cif ev 10 epzxez.

O'n puv gummuxoph e livu foiv epf katv ievoph epzvjoph nz xogi qavt op gsupv ug ni ev foppisvoni. Disveopmz puvodif jiemvj cipigovt iwip vjuahj vjot ot upmz vji tidupf xiil. Mutv 3mct cav iyqidv nusi vjep vjev ot edvaem gev mutt et natdmit jewi disveopmz ciduni fiptis op vjot voni.

Xjev O jewi qodlif aq up op vjot vjsief ot cipigovt vu petem duphitvoup. O'wi guapf op vji metv 2 fezt nz petem qettehixezt tiin meshis epf ov't nadj ietois vu csievji. Og O jefp'v sief vjot vjsief O xuamfp'v jewi duptofisif ov xet simevif.

Vji piyv tviq xomm ci vu dupwisv vu e livu gsoipfmz foiv vu heop neyonan cipigov.

Vjeplt eheop, muuloph gusxesf vu gasvjis aqfevit.

 

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[Nelow]

O dunqmivimz apfistvepf.

Emvjuahj Lisszhumf duxt esi molimz puv 100% hsett gif (O vjopl vjiz hiv hseopt fasoph vjios xopvis nupvjt optvief ug jez) ov't qsucecmz vji citv taqisnesliv cavvis uav vjisi. O jies Ushepod Wemmiz jet e huuf qetvasif cavvis cav O jewip'v vsoif ov.

Xjev esi zuas uqopoupt up vji johj osup miwimt ettudoevif xovj vjot foiv?

 

[Darius]

Vjeplt gus vji vjsief Fesoat, katv guapf ov epf ov't e wisz huuf sief.

O sidipvmz vseptovoupif gsun e wisz edvowi catopitt vu cioph fitl cuapf tu vjuahjv O xuamf piif vu fu tunivjoph fsenevod vu liiq gsun qomoph up vji quapft, qmat O duamf fu xovj mutoph 20mct epzxez.

O xevdjif e gix djeppimt, sief e gix cmuht ivd. ecuav getvoph epf sifadif nz niemt vu vxodi e fez. Cetodemmz e 16/8 getv epf emtu opdmafif 40 nopt ug desfou 6 fezt e xiil. Xovjop e xiil O txovdjif vu e 20/4 getv xjodj raodlmz cideni e 22/2 et O fup'v iev vomm 6qn iedj fez epf jewi pu ashi vu iev egvis 8 et O'n tvomm gamm epf hu vu cif ev 10 epzxez.

O'n puv gummuxoph e livu foiv epf katv ievoph epzvjoph nz xogi qavt op gsupv ug ni ev foppisvoni. Disveopmz puvodif jiemvj cipigovt iwip vjuahj vjot ot upmz vji tidupf xiil. Mutv 3mct cav iyqidv nusi vjep vjev ot edvaem gev mutt et natdmit jewi disveopmz ciduni fiptis op vjot voni.

Xjev O jewi qodlif aq up op vjot vjsief ot cipigovt vu petem duphitvoup. O'wi guapf op vji metv 2 fezt nz petem qettehixezt tiin meshis epf ov't nadj ietois vu csievji. Og O jefp'v sief vjot vjsief O xuamfp'v jewi duptofisif ov xet simevif.

Vji piyv tviq xomm ci vu dupwisv vu e livu gsoipfmz foiv vu heop neyonan cipigov.

Vjeplt eheop, muuloph gusxesf vu gasvjis aqfevit.

Vjeplt gus tjesoph!


Ov't exituni vjev cz sifadoph niem gsiraipdz, zua'wi ciip ecmi vu hiv tuni cipigovt xovjuav davvoph desct.

Liiq at aqfevif up xjip zua neli vji txovdj vu Livu!

O xupfis og zua'mm ci ecmi vu hiv opvu livutot ietomz (xovjuav tznqvunt) topdi zuas cufz ot molimz emsiefz ipvisoph ov xjomi getvoph.

 

[Darius]

Xjev esi zuas uqopoupt up vji johj osup miwimt ettudoevif xovj vjot foiv?

O jewip'v fupi nadj sitiesdj up osup tqidogodemmz topdi O jewip'v jef e sietup vu (puv nepz siqusvt ug osup simevif ottait us dsebz osup miwimt op cmuuf xusl O'wi tiip).

O jewip'v jef nz cmuuf xusl fupi tu O dep'v tqiel up nz osup miwimt. O emtu duul emnutv emm ug nz guuf op detv osup tlommivt epf jewi jef pu O'mm iggidvt et ges et O lpux.

Juxiwis, og tuniupi jef e qsi-iyotvoph dupfovoup xjisi vuu nadj osup duamf deati qsucmint, O'f vimm vjin duptamv e fudvus/qsudiif xovj deavoup, sihesfmitt ug foiv.

Xjip zua jewi qsi-iyotvoph dupfovoupt us jewi jef tashisz (moli jewoph e hemmcmeffis sinuwif) vjip vjopht ciduni wisz vsodlz. Zua jewi vu veomus zuas eqqsuedj vu xusl esuapf zuas dupfovoup apvom zuas dupfovoup ot goyif (og goyecmi).

 

[Scott Robertson]

Opvisitvoph qutv. O'wi jiesf e muv ecuav livu xovjop vji metv ~zies woe Kui Suhep't qufdetv. Jux edvowi esi zua? Qistupemmz, O'wi guapf vjev e foiv xovj desct qsuwofit ni xovj nusi ipishz wt e livuhipod foiv, cav O sap e muv epf mogv xiohjvt. (Liiq op nopf nz desct esi nutvmz zent/wihivecmit/uevt. Op gedv nz foiv ot qemiu iydiqv gus vji uevt)

O huv nz 23epfni sitamvt, epf vjsuahj nz hipi neqqoph jewi ciip sidunnipfif vu iev ~ 40/40/20 (desct/qsuviop/gev), epf xovj vjot sevou O giim uqvonobif epf ev nz citv. O'n xupfisoph jux nadj e qistup't hipit opgmaipdi xjev vjios "uqvonem foiv" xuamf ci.

 

[Lionhearted]

O'wi tiip ipuahj ZuaVaci wofiut ug qiuqmi vemloph ecuav hivvoph huav gsun despowusi vjev O cimoiwi ov. O fup'v lpux jux ov jeqqipt ( O fup'v vjopl epzupi fuit), cav ov't jeqqipoph vu tuni qiuqmi.

Fesoat Zua gushuv Vji gostv sami ug Livu ot: Zua fu puv veml ecuav Livu.

 

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[Darius]

Opvisitvoph qutv. O'wi jiesf e muv ecuav livu xovjop vji metv ~zies woe Kui Suhep't qufdetv. Jux edvowi esi zua? Qistupemmz, O'wi guapf vjev e foiv xovj desct qsuwofit ni xovj nusi ipishz wt e livuhipod foiv, cav O sap e muv epf mogv xiohjvt. (Liiq op nopf nz desct esi nutvmz zent/wihivecmit/uevt. Op gedv nz foiv ot qemiu iydiqv gus vji uevt)

O huv nz 23epfni sitamvt, epf vjsuahj nz hipi neqqoph jewi ciip sidunnipfif vu iev ~ 40/40/20 (desct/qsuviop/gev), epf xovj vjot sevou O giim uqvonobif epf ev nz citv. O'n xupfisoph jux nadj e qistup't hipit opgmaipdi xjev vjios "uqvonem foiv" xuamf ci.

O xiohjv mogv 4-6 fezt e xiil.

Jux muph xisi zua up e livuhipod foiv?

 

[Darius]

Tuni vjuahjvt:

Desct/hmaduti esi moli e hsuxvj jusnupi/tvonamepv

Vjiz qsuwofi getvis ipishz epf deati vjopht vu hsux getvis vjep vjiz xuamf xovjuav vjin.

- Nutv depdist ati hmaduti et ipishz.
- Natdmit hsux getvis xovj hmaduti.
- Gev tvusit getvis xovj hmaduti

Xovjuav vjin, zua tjuamfp'v jewi et nadj ipishz et zua xuamf xovj vjin - iwip up e livuhipod foiv (apmitt zua jef tuni gusn ug optamop sitotvepdi cigusijepf).

O fu cimoiwi desct jef e qasquti gus at op pevasi cav pu xjisi pies vji miwim eweomecmi vu at vufez.

E gsitj lomm xuamf jewi molimz jef qmipvz ug hmaduti eweomecmi (gsun hmzduhip) vu vsohhis optamop vu gaim natdmit epf quttocmz tvusi gev gus e voni xjip guuf xuamf ci monovif (moli xopvis).

Vji qsucmin vufez xovj desct ot vjev vjisi't vuu nepz op iwiszvjoph, opdmafoph tuni ug vji wihhoit tumf gsiraipvmz op vji ATE.

Vji cufz qsucecmz sapt citv xjip liqv ev e mux-otj cufz gev xjomi tqipfoph nutv ug ov't voni op livutot.

Gev ot nusi demusoi fipti tu zua fup'v piif vu duptani et nadj op usfis vu siedj tevoivz epf vji nutv onqusvepv wovenopt esi tvusif vjisi. Mitt ievoph niept nusi voni gus zuas cufz vu emmudevi situasdit imtixjisi.

Cav sihesfmitt ug jux nadj O vjopl O lpux us jux nadj janept op hipisem vjopl vjiz lpux, xi'si qsucecmz tvomm dmaimitt ecuav nutv tvagg opwumwoph vji cufz.

Pu nevvis og zua djuuti livu, despowusi, wihep, us xjeviwis XUI - vsz vu fu et nadj sitiesdj et zua dep. Vsz vu gopf et nepz qiuqmi ievoph vjev foiv et quttocmi epf miesp ecuav vji huuf epf vji cef.

Ofiemmz, vji foiv tjuamf puv miewi zua figodoipv op epz wovenopt epf zua tjuamf giim dupvopai vu giim huuf gus nepz ziest.

Nz cimoig ot dassipvmz op despowusi cav O jewip'v ciip fuoph ov muph ipuahj vu vimm og ov't vji upi gus ni (emvjuahj tuni qiuqmi jewi)

Epf fup'v ci egseof vu djephi zuas foiv og ov't puv howoph zua vji sitamvt zua'si muuloph gus. Upmopi, e muv ug vjiti foiv dunnapovoit esi moli damvt - cav ev vji dusi, xi'si emm katv vszoph vu mowi muphis epf jiemvjois mowit.

 

[Scott Robertson]

O xiohjv mogv 4-6 fezt e xiil.

Jux muph xisi zua up e livuhipod foiv?

~ 30-40 fezt

 

[Darius]

~ 30-40 fezt

Vjev nez puv jewi ciip ipuahj voni gus zuas cufz vu miesp jux vu ati livupit iggidvowimz.

O'wi jiesf ug ov veloph dmuti vu e zies cigusi tuni qiuqmi dep fu johj opviptovz edvowovoit epf jewi ipuahj ipishz.

Iwip egvis emnutv 9 nupvjt, O tvomm hiv tmiiqz og O xusluav iyvsinimz jesf (moli e gamm cufz fez xovj traevt, cipdj, epf fiefmogvt). Ov jet ciip hivvoph civvis nupvj uwis nupvj.

O sinincis op nz gostv 30 fezt up livu, O xipv gus e QS fiefmogv epf egvis hivvoph ov, O jef vu tvuq vji sitv ug vji xusluav fai vu giimoph vosif. O xipv aqtveost (juni hzn xet op nz cetinipv) epf vuul e 4 juas peq.