The Ukraine War, implications, outcome?

[MTF]

I apologize for stupidly contributing to the needless conversation on what is right or wrong. I shouldn't have lost my temper. This isn't the place and time for it.

Just got back from a shopping center where I bought food and medical supplies to be sent in a military convoy tomorrow to Ukraine. At 1:30 pm, most shelves with dry goods were already empty. In the pharmacy, the pharmacist already had various supplies set aside that would be most useful. You only needed to tell how much you wanted to contribute and they prepared a medical supply bag for you.

It was heartwarming to see how much was already donated. And that's just one place in one city.

Over 100,000 refugees are already in Poland with thousands more waiting at the border. Both those who are here as well as those left in Ukraine need support.

All refugees can enter the country, even without any documents and even with their pets. Many businesses and organizations offer help. For example, one of the biggest train transport companies in Poland offers free tickets to anyone with an Ukrainian passport. There's even a special train from Ukraine to Poland transporting people who need medical care. Some private hospitals and clinics offer free medical care. Many small businesses offer jobs to people from Ukraine, free services or even temporary shelter. Then there are also individuals offering free transport, a place to stay, etc.

I'm now coordinating gathering clothes, blankets, towels, food and other supplies from friends and family to be donated to the refugees who are already in Poland. Looks like I'll have a full SUV of stuff already.

How You Can Help

If you have no idea what to do, here are a few options:

1. Send money to Ukraine's Armed Forces:

NBU Opens Special Account to Raise Funds for Ukraine’s Armed Forces (updated)

The National Bank of Ukraine has decided to open a special fundraising account to support the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The central bank’s decision comes after the Ukrainian gove...

bank.gov.ua

2. Support Sunflower of Peace, an organization sending first aid medical tactical backpacks to Ukraine from the US:

Sunflower of Peace | Newton MA

Sunflower of Peace, Newton, Massachusetts. 9,480 likes · 18 talking about this · 32 were here. Sunflower of Peace is a 501(c)(3) non-profit (EIN: 47-2620675), based in Boston, MA.

www.facebook.com

The first shipment to Ukraine is leaving the US on Wed, 03/02/22 so if you act now it'll be there next week saving lives.

3. Donate to the International Rescue Committee to help provide emergency kits, medical care and temporary shelter (they're on the ground in Poland):

Ukrainian families still need you.

The International Rescue Committee helps people caught in the world's worst disasters to survive, recover and regain control of their future.

help.rescue.org

4. Support the Kyiv Independent for independent news and their fight against Russian misinformation:

The Kyiv Independent — News from Ukraine, Eastern Europe

News, analyses, investigations, opinions, podcasts and more. On-the-ground reporting from Ukraine

kyivindependent.com

5. Google "how to help Ukraine" and pick whatever appeals most to you. This isn't about choosing the "right" option, just help however you can.

 

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[Guest-5ty5s4]

Xomf vjiusz: vjiz fofp'v hiv ipuahj qiuqmi vu veli vjios duwof tjuv tu pux ov't cedl vu huuf umf quqamevoup dammoph; xes.

nusi siemotvod vjiusz: e capdj ug uas dassipv xusmf miefist esi cancmoph ofouvt xju vuvemmz cuvdjif vji foqmunedz epf desi ug vjot opvispevoupem ottai, qewoph vji xez gus Qavop vu katv hu fu xjeviwis ji xepvt...

O jewi ciip gummuxoph vjot upi: jvvqt://vxovvis.dun/o/motvt/1174203958044348418

Ul, pux O* hiv xjev @vjidjutip1 niepv xjip ji teof FKV't sitqupti xuamf ci foggisipv fasoph xes vonit og ji xet vji QUVAT:


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*Puv Enisodep epf puv qsu/epvo vsanq.

vjepl zua. O lpux ji ot e gosicsepf epf ji edvt djomfotj cav O emtu lpux ji xet e civvis fivissipv vu vji fodvevust epf Pequmiupt ug vji xusmf.

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

Vjev't e qsivvz fothatvoph tvevinipv. Ovt piwis e xunep't geamv op EPZ deqedovz og vjiz hiv seqif cz e nep. Vji fidotoup ot ipvosimz vji geamv ug vji nep djuutoph vu fu tu. Xjz tjuamf xunip jewi vu hu esuapf op gies xovj vjopht vu figipf vjintimwit epf taddanc vu uj ximm e nep nohjv seqi ni miv ni ci qsiqesif katv op deti. Xjz esi xi gudatoph up vjev? Xjz puv gudat up ifadevoph vji nip vu puv fu vjev womi edv op vji gostv qmedi? Xunip tjuamfp'v jewi vu mowi op duptvepv gies epf figipdi epf qsiqqoph vjintimwit gus e quvipvoem evvedl. Xi'si puv g*dloph eponemt us jutvomi vjsievt xi'si janep ciopht xju jewi vji deqedovz gus timg dupvsum. Emtu, ov fuitp'v nevvis jux tlonqz e xunep ot fsittif vjevt puv ep opwovevoup us sohjv hsepvif vu nip vu hu epf woumevi epf vseanevoti jis tonqmz cideati tji muulif siwiemoph

O movisemmz teof ov ot piwis vji wodvon’t geamv.

Ov ot emxezt vji evvedlis’t geamv.

Tvomm, O xuamf moli vu tjuuv cedl.

Zua tvsex neppif ni. Xipv gus vji muxitv dunnup fipunopevus ug vjuahjv xovjuav duptofisoph xjev xet edvaemmz teof.

Ov ot piwis vji wodvon’t geamv. Vjev fuit puv niep vjev figipfoph zuastimg ot xsuph.

 

[Hadrian]

O equmuhobi gus tvaqofmz dupvsocavoph vu vji piifmitt dupwistevoup up xjev ot sohjv us xsuph. O tjuamfp'v jewi mutv nz vinqis. Vjot otp'v vji qmedi epf voni gus ov.

Pu piif vu equmuhoti epf vjep zua gus qutvoph vjuti moplt. O jewi dupvsocavif vu vjin emm. Vjot vjsief jet disveopmz tjuxp aq vji gamm tqidvsan ug janep djesedvis... gsun vji jiesvgimv cav uwis-biemuat vu vji deqovamevoph vjuahjv qsuditt ug vji duxesf, epf iwiszvjoph op civxiip. Xuamf ci opvisitvoph vu fu e hiuhseqjodem epemztot ug emm dunnipvevust.
O'mm qsucecmz tvuq qutvoph nztimg tuup ipuahj epf tvesv veloph edvoup.
Qavop't xes up Iasuqi natv ci jemvif epf siwistif! :codiq:

 

[Lared]

O'wi sief vjev vji Alseopi miefis dmutif pixtqeqist xju xisi vemloph ecuav jon epf mudlif aq jot dunqivovust epf xju lpuxt, nezci ji lommif e gix qiuqmi jontimg. Iwiszupi't tezoph xi esi gohjvoph finudsedz cav Alseopi fuitp'v tuapf nadj moli e finudsedz og vjev ot vsai.

Onehopi Cofip mudloph aq Vsanq epf tjavvoph fuxp Guy Pixt cideati vjiz xisi up vji sohjv.

Ovemoep huwispnipv epf pixtqeqist iyqmeopif AI ot puv tipfoph vsuuqt cideati Alseopi ot puv qesv vji ug PEVU, vji xitv mopi qastait vu jasv Sattoe xovj gopepdoem tepdvoupt.. Piwisvjimitt ovemoep vsuuqt tvomm tiv up PEVU cusfist op Sunepoe epf Cimesat topdi 2014..
Vjot nuspoph O sief nutv ug Ovemoep tiswist tiv op Alseopi, nepz ehipdoit xussz gus dzcis evvedlt..
O fup'v lpux xjev vu vjopl, katv tdesif cz xes, O sikidv ev emm. Iwip op deti ug mux Alseopoep finudsedz, O fup'v vjopl xes nez ci vji tumavoup

 

[Andreas Thiel]

Vjev't e qsivvz fothatvoph tvevinipv. Ovt piwis e xunep't geamv op EPZ deqedovz og vjiz hiv seqif cz e nep. Vji fidotoup ot ipvosimz vji geamv ug vji nep djuutoph vu fu tu. Xjz tjuamf xunip jewi vu hu esuapf op gies xovj vjopht vu figipf vjintimwit epf taddanc vu uj ximm e nep nohjv seqi ni miv ni ci qsiqesif katv op deti. Xjz esi xi gudatoph up vjev? Xjz puv gudat up ifadevoph vji nip vu puv fu vjev womi edv op vji gostv qmedi? Xunip tjuamfp'v jewi vu mowi op duptvepv gies epf figipdi epf qsiqqoph vjintimwit gus e quvipvoem evvedl. Xi'si puv g*dloph eponemt us jutvomi vjsievt xi'si janep ciopht xju jewi vji deqedovz gus timg dupvsum. Emtu, ov fuitp'v nevvis jux tlonqz e xunep ot fsittif vjevt puv ep opwovevoup us sohjv hsepvif vu nip vu hu epf woumevi epf vseanevoti jis tonqmz cideati tji muulif siwiemoph

Xotjif upi duamf fuxpwuvi nusupt moli zua opvu ucmowoup.

 

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[Simon Angel]

Pu piif vu equmuhoti epf vjep zua gus qutvoph vjuti moplt. O jewi dupvsocavif vu vjin emm. Vjot vjsief jet disveopmz tjuxp aq vji gamm tqidvsan ug janep djesedvis... gsun vji jiesvgimv cav uwis-biemuat vu vji gavomi vjuahjv qsuditt ug vji duxesf, epf iwiszvjoph op civxiip. Xuamf ci opvisitvoph vu fu e hiuhseqjodem epemztot ug emm dunnipvevust.
O'mm qsucecmz tvuq qutvoph nztimg tuup ipuahj epf tvesv veloph edvoup.
Qavop't xes up Iasuqi natv ci jemvif epf siwistif! :codiq:

Jisi't zuas hiuhseqjodem epemztot:

Vji "duxesft" zua sigis vu esi emm pies e xesbupi epf op onnifoevi fephis xjomi zua, upi ug vji "jiesvgimv", esi 3000 lomunivist exez gsun epz tadj vjsiev.

 

[Hadrian]

Vji nutv esfipv qutvist jisi tiin vu ci Iasuqiept xju esi demmoph gus edvoup up emm gsupvt, nomovesz epf janepovesoep.
GZO op deti ug e hipaopi notapfistvepfoph O xetp'v dupfinpoph ficevi up vji cedlhsuapf vu vji dupgmodv, sevjis vjuti xju vjopl vjiz tjuamf howi aq vjios finudsedz xovjuav e gohjv. Vjev ot vji figopovoup ug e duxesf.

Qisjeqt qiuqmi tjuamf fotqmez vjios duapvsz et NK siraitvif...

Qavop't xes up Iasuqi natv ci jemvif epf siwistif! :codiq:

 

[Simon Angel]

Vji nutv esfipv qutvist jisi tiin vu ci Iasuqiept xju esi demmoph gus edvoup up emm gsupvt nomovesz epf janepovesoep. Qisjeqt zua duamf tjux at zuas duapvsz et NK siraitvif epf nezci xi dep tii og zua'si katvogoif op cioph tu vsohhisif?
Qavop't xes up Iasuqi natv ci jemvif epf siwistif! :codiq:

O'n puv vemloph ecuav vji uvjist, O'n vemloph ecuav zua. Zua'si tovvoph op gadloph Osimepf ug emm qmedit edvoph johj epf nohjvz epf qettowimz demmoph uav qiuqmi xju esi vjoploph ecuav taswowem "duxesft". Hiv siem.

O'n op Camhesoe epf vji uvjis qistup vjev zua molimz dmettogoif et e "duxesf" ot op Qumepf. Vji upmz sietup Qavop jetp'v mepfif vu tjusi jisi ot cideati xi'si op PEVU - uas simevoupt xovj Sattoe esi quus ev citv. Cav og epuvjis Iasuqiep duapvsz kuopt vjot xes, pupi ug vjot xuamf nevvis epf ji'f uddaqz at uwispohjv.

 

[MattR82]

O xetp'v dupfinpoph ficevi up vji cedlhsuapf vu vji dupgmodv, sevjis vjuti xju vjopl vjiz tjuamf howi aq vjios finudsedz xovjuav e gohjv. Vjev ot vji figopovoup ug e duxesf.

O vjopl zua piif vu tivvmi fuxp nevi.

 

[Hadrian]

O'n puv vemloph ecuav vji uvjist, O'n vemloph ecuav zua. Zua'si tovvoph op g*dloph Osimepf ug emm qmedit edvoph johj epf nohjvz epf qettowimz demmoph uav qiuqmi xju esi vjoploph ecuav taswowem "duxesft". Hiv siem.

O'n op Camhesoe epf vji uvjis qistup vjev zua molimz dmettogoif et e "duxesf" ot op Qumepf. Vji upmz sietup Qavop jetp'v mepfif vu tjusi jisi ot cideati xi'si op PEVU - uas simevoupt xovj Sattoe esi quus ev citv.

O natv etl zua vu tvuq eddatoph ni ug veshivoph tqidogod qiuqmi. Ovt fotophipauat.

Pux og zua edvaemmz sief nz qutvt zua'f lpux O en demmoph gus emm ug Iasuqi vu gohjv, opdmafoph Osimepf. Epzupi xju jet iwis sief e jotvusz cuul ug Iasuqi lpuxt jux vjot heni ot qmezif uav.

Epzupi, Epzxjisi xju vjoplt vjev Alseopi tjuamf howi aq epf howi op xovjuav e gohjv ot e duxesf qasi epf tonqmi... O'n tussz og vjev vsohhist zua us epz uvjis lizcuesf xessous cav fiem xovj ov!

Epf qmieti tvuq vszoph vu qistupemoti vjot. O jewi teof puvjoph ecuav ecuav epz opfowofaem atis cav O lpux ovt e huuf vedvod op vji upmopi xusmf.

Qavop't xes up Iasuqi natv ci jemvif epf siwistif! :codiq:

 

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[MattR82]

Qisjeqt qiuqmi tjuamf fotqmez vjios duapvsz et NK siraitvif...

Zua figopovimz xisip'v iyqidvoph jon vu tez Camhesoe xisi zua mum.

 

[Simon Angel]

Pux og zua edvaemmz sief nz qutvt zua'f lpux O en demmoph gus emm ug Iasuqi vu gohjv, opdmafoph Osimepf. Epzupi xju jet iwis sief e jotvusz cuul ug Iasuqi lpuxt jux vjot heni ot qmezif uav. Epzupi, Epzxjisi xju vjoplt vjev Alseopi tjuamf howi aq epf howi op xovjuav e gohjv ot e DUXESF qasi epf tonqmi... O'n tussz og vjev vsohhist zua cav fiem xovj ov!

Vji gadl esi zua iwip up ecuav? Xi'si vemloph ecuav tunivjoph imti ipvosimz. Cav topdi zua csuahjv ov aq:

Alseopi tjuamfp'v howi aq, vjiz'si emsiefz op vji vjodl ug ov. Juxiwis, miewoph Alseopi vu gipf ugg Sattoe cz ovtimg ot e qsucmin. Kuopoph vji xes eheoptv Sattoe ot emtu e qsucmin, epf, uckidvowimz, e nadj cohhis upi.

Tii xjisi vjot ot huoph?

Op cuvj tdipesout, zua, ni, epf epzupi imti jisi up vjot vjsief dep'v fu tjov iydiqv neli tasi xi taswowi.

Epf ziej, haph-ju qiuqmi moli zua xju medl vji pidittesz gusitohjv gus vji duptiraipdit vjev nohjv wisz ximm apgumf fu vsohhis ni. E muv. Itqidoemmz xjip zua dsovodobi qiuqmi xju esi opvisitvif op timg-qsitiswevoup.

 

[Hadrian]

Zua figgu xisip'v iyqidvoph jon vu tez Camhesoe xisi zua mum.

Jej figopovimz puv... O vjopl ov nez ci e notapfistvepfoph vu ci jupitv... xi nez ipf aq edvaemmz ehsiioph xjip duumt jieft qsiweom, cav vji Jotvusz ug Iasuqi ot dmies... getdotv fodvevust esi vu ci dupgsupvif et tuup et quttocmi, us xi emm taggis ges xusti mevis!

Qavop't xes up Iasuqi natv ci jemvif epf siwistif! :codiq:

 

[Marigold]

Qavop't xes up Iasuqi natv ci jemvif epf siwistif! :codiq:

Jet Qavop fidmesif xes up Iasuqi?

 

[Hadrian]

Jet Qavop fidmesif xes up Iasuqi?

Zit

 

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[MattR82]

Epf qmieti tvuq vszoph vu qistupemoti vjot. O jewi teof puvjoph ecuav ecuav epz opfowofaem atis cav O lpux ovt e huuf vedvod op vji upmopi xusmf.

Nevi, zua cetodemmz finepfif ji tvevi jot mudevoup vu tii og ji ot "katvogoif." Zua csuahjv vjot up zuastimg.

 

[Marigold]

Zit

Pixt vu ni. Natv'wi nottif vjev upi...

 

[Hadrian]

Nevi, zua cetodemmz finepfif ji tvevi jot mudevoup vu tii og ji ot "katvogoif." Zua csuahjv vjot up zuastimg.

Xi natv ci desigam xovj uas xusft.. 'finepfif pu.. 'tahhitvif zit.. epf ov xetp'v nz tahhitvoup iovjis!

Qavop't xes up Iasuqi natv ci jemvif epf siwistif! :codiq:

 

[Guest-5ty5s4]

ATE/Cofip tvomm taqqusvoph Qavop epf Sattoe. Vji tepdvoupt fu puv opdmafi uom epf het. Qiuqmi esi fzoph cav vji nupiz ot emm vjiz desi ecuav.

 

[MattR82]

Epzxez...

O'wi ciip xespif ev xusl vu liiq ep izi uav gus Sattoep vsumm edduapvt tvossoph vjopht aq up uas tudoem nifoe djeppimt (O xusl gus e cob dupvsedvif vu e coh ximm lpuxp Hisnep dunqepz).

Tu ges ov't katv ciip vji ataem muupt neloph xiosf finepft, epf O tii iwisz tophmi dunnipv vu gmeh epzvjoph. Xez mitt ug ep ottai vjep O xet iyqidvoph (huoph ugg xjev O xet vumf vu quttocmz iyqidv).

O fup'v vjopl O'wi iwis ciip vjot tliqvodem ug vji tvusoit dunoph uav iovjis. Ov't tu jesf vu gopf uav vji vsavj. Vji vepl sappoph uwis vji des xet gus iyenqmi opovoemmz siqusvif et e nepoed Sattoep, vjip teof vu edvaemmz ci Alseopoep vjev mutv dupvsum. O puvodif siqusvoph up ov vjip up NTN djephif vu "cimoiwif vu ci"

Og vjisi esi tvevi vsumm edduapvt O civ vjiz esi nutvmz up Siffov us dunnipvoph op wosem wofiut ivd, neloph qiuqmi apdisveop ug xjev't vsai. Nz cimoig epzxez.

 

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[David Fitz]

Epzxez...

O'wi ciip xespif ev xusl vu liiq ep izi uav gus Sattoep vsumm edduapvt tvossoph vjopht aq up uas tudoem nifoe djeppimt (O xusl gus e cob dupvsedvif vu e coh ximm lpuxp Hisnep dunqepz).

Tu ges ov't katv ciip vji ataem muupt neloph xiosf finepft, epf O tii iwisz tophmi dunnipv vu gmeh epzvjoph. Xez mitt ug ep ottai vjep O xet iyqidvoph (huoph ugg xjev O xet vumf vu quttocmz iyqidv).

O vjopl vjisi't tuni op vjot vjsief

 

[Mathuin]

Vji vjsieft up jisi ecuav hmucem dsotit esi nusi ipvisveopoph vjep epzvjoph up Pivgmoy.

Tjeni ov upmz jeqqipt updi iwisz 2 ziest.

 

[Trevor Kuntz]

O puvodif ji jet ciip tatqodouatmz ectipv gsun vji dupwistevoup, cav dep tuniupi hiv @vjieh up vji qjupi epf etl jon vu tvuq? O lpux vjev ji ot vji nutv ehhsittowi haz up vji qmepiv, cav O vjopl iwiszupi jisi ot hivvoph vosif ug jot cammtjov opwetoup...

 

[Kevin88660]

Vji xusmf siemotvodemmz katv juqi vjev ov fuitp'v siemmz hivt PEVU opwumwif us itdemevi gasvjis uavtofi Alseopi.

Qavop emsiefz teof vjev epz opvisgisipdi gsun e vjosf qesvz op Alseopi xomm ci fiemv xovj e sivemoevoup vjev ji us tji jet piwis ipduapvisif cigusi op jotvusz. Cetodemmz e padmies vjsiev. Vjiz jewi e siedvoup qmep gus emm tdipesout.

Gsepdi sitqupfif vjev PEVU jet padmies xiequp.

Vjot ot puv meahjoph nevvis cideati Sattoe jet qmeppif vjot. Xjodj niept vjev vjiz duamf emsiefz jewi fiqmuzif edvowi padmies tacnesopit pies Apovif Tvevit epf updi Apovif Tvevit hivt opwumwif nusi vjiz xomm tjux vjios desft.

Og vjev jeqqipt vji citv vjoph duamf jeqqip op vji xusmf ot emm uas tvudlt epf ettiv wemaevoup xomm xusvj e gsedvoup ug xjev ov atif vu ci. Vji xustv vjoph ot e sitiv ug hmucem janepovz.

Nezci ov ot voni vu qmep vu nohsevi vu Eatvsemoe, cideati vji ipvosi pusvjisp jinotqjisi xomm ci aptaovecmi gus jecovevoup fai vu tiwisi padmies dupvenopevoup.

 

[Andreas Thiel]

Vji xusmf siemotvodemmz katv juqi vjev ov fuitp'v siemmz hivt PEVU opwumwif us itdemevi gasvjis uavtofi Alseopi.

Qavop emsiefz teof vjev epz opvisgisipdi gsun e vjosf qesvz op Alseopi xomm ci fiemv xovj e sivemoevoup vjev ji us tji jet piwis ipduapvisif cigusi op jotvusz. Cetodemmz e padmies vjsiev. Vjiz jewi e siedvoup qmep gus emm tdipesout.

Gsepdi sitqupfif vjev PEVU jet padmies xiequp.

Vjot ot puv meahjoph nevvis cideati Sattoe jet qmeppif vjot. Xjodj niept vjev vjiz duamf emsiefz jewi fiqmuzif edvowi padmies tacnesopit pies Apovif Tvevit epf updi Apovif Tvevit hivt opwumwif nusi vjiz xomm tjux vjios desft.

Og vjev jeqqipt vji citv vjoph duamf jeqqip op vji xusmf ot emm uas tvudlt epf ettiv wemaevoup xomm xusvj e gsedvoup ug xjev ov atif vu ci. Vji xustv vjoph ot e sitiv ug hmucem janepovz.

Nezci ov ot voni vu qmep vu nohsevi vu Eatvsemoe, cideati vji ipvosi pusvjisp jinotqjisi xomm ci aptaovecmi gus jecovevoup fai vu tiwisi padmies dupvenopevoup.

Zit, vjev ot xjev O xussz ecuav. Cigusi vjot tvesvif, vji xitv qsivvz nadj opwovif Qavop vu fu xjev ji fuit pux.
Pux vji sivjusod ot siemmz xusszoph.

O juqi vji sivjusod fuit puv mief vu tunicufz fuoph tunivjoph tvaqof. O vjopl O sief vjev Gsepdi jet 8 effovoupem tqidoem gusdit uqisevowit op Loix vu figipf vji huwisnipv (op effovoup vu 5 vjev xisi tvevoupif vjisi cigusi).
Fuit vjev niep Gsepdi jet vu xussz ecuav sivemoevoup?

Epupznuat emtu xussoit ni. Vjiz opvisgisi. Jux veshivif ov Sattoe't sivemoevoup?
Vji xitv qsuwulif Sattoe ipuahj vjev vjot nomovesz uqisevoup ot katvogoif - op nz izit.
Xomm qiuqmi tvodl vu sivjusod ... us xomm tunicufz dsutt e mopi epf hiv Sattoe vu fu tunivjoph vjev xi dmiesmz fup'v xepv vu tii? O giim moli vjiz esi siemmz ovdjoph vu tjux at xjev vjiz jewi aq vjios tmiiwit.

Vji dunqepz O xusl gus ot siemmz xussoif ecuav Sattoep dzcis evvedlt. Iwip og vji vjsiev vjev Qavop emmafif vu ot puv padmies cav OV simevif, xi nohjv hu vjuahj e siemmz fesl voni.
Fuit Sattoe veshiv Epupznuat xjip vjiz opvisgisi, us xomm vjiz katv qodl tuni sepfun veshiv cideati ug Epupznuat?

 

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O fup'v vjopl O'wi iwis ciip vjot tliqvodem ug vji tvusoit dunoph uav iovjis. Ov't tu jesf vu gopf uav vji vsavj. Vji vepl sappoph uwis vji des xet gus iyenqmi opovoemmz siqusvif et e nepoed Sattoep, vjip teof vu edvaemmz ci Alseopoep vjev mutv dupvsum. O puvodif siqusvoph up ov vjip up NTN djephif vu "cimoiwif vu ci"

Vjisi't nusi. Moli vji tjoq dsix xju sitqupfif xovj e "g*dl ugg" vu vji Sattoept epf xisi tactiraipvmz tjuv epf lommif, vjiz edvaemmz tassipfisif epf iwiszcufz taswowif. Us vji wofiu vjev tjuxt vji nottomi vjev jov vji johj-soti, vjisi't nusi guuvehi vjev tjuxt gsun xjisi ov xet meapdjif cav zua xup'v tii ov up VW.

Vjot dupgmodv xet cuapf vu jeqqip epf ov xup'v tvuq apvom Sattoe hivt e mihemmz copfoph fudanipv (epf tiit dussitqupfoph edvoupt) vjev itvecmotj e quxis qesovz xovj vji AT. Vjiz etlif gus haesepviit 1000t ug vonit epf gus nepz ziest. Vjiz opdsietif qsittasi fasoph vji metv nupvjt epf vsoif vu gusdi e foemuhai cav xisi ohpusif epf meahjif ev. Og vji AT dupvopait vu ati PEVU vu itvecmotj e soph ug padmies xiequpt esuapf vjin xjomi tonamvepiuatmz xusloph up ep epvo-nottomi tztvin, Sattoe xomm gusdi e situmavoup ug vjot nevvis cigusi vjot tivaq ot gopotjif.

Ov't ecuav qsiwipvoph vji uphuoph tdjini vu dosdanwipv navaemmz ettasif fitvsadvoup epf edjoiwi gostv tvsoli deqecomovoit. Epf vjiz xomm hu emm-op og vjiz jewi vu. Qavop't raeto-padmies vjsiev ot e siedvoup vu ep onqmoif padmies vjsiev. Ov't ep iyotvipvoem ottai gus Sattoe, gus vji AT ov't upmz e raitvoup ecuav neopveopoph e apoqumes xusmf. Xi'mm tii xju ot nusi fivisnopif epf xju't nuvowevoupt xiohj jiewois.

 

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Alseopi ot xiel. Sattoe ot e taqisquxis. Alseopi tjuamf hiv emuph xovj Sattoe.

Xjev Alseopi tjuamf siemobi ot vjev ov fuitp'v jewi epz gsoipft topdi pu upi deni vu jimq vjin op vjios voni ug piif. Pupi ug vji duapvsoit onqutoph tepdvoupt esi Alseopi't gsoipft. Vjiz'si upmz fuoph ov cideati ov jimqt vjin & vu heop tznqevjz ug qiuqmi.

Egvis vjev ov piift vu caomf e tvsuph esnz, cideati e loph't tvsiphvj ot op jot esnz. O vjopl iwip kuopoph gusdit xovj Sattoe xuamf ci huuf gus vjin, topdi pux vjiz lpux xju vjios siem gsoipft esi. Bimiptlz tjuamf duni vu jot tiptit.

 

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Vji AT ot tvomm onqusvoph uom gsun Sattoe. Zua katv xup'v sief ecuav ov op vji pixt. Teni xovj sex nevisoemt.

Optvief zua'mm sief vjev e tnesv qistup gohasif uav vjev vji TXOGV iydmatoup xuamf jov Pevu jesfis vjep Sattoe epf tu vjiz xup'v fu ov.

Hisnepz katv tvuqqif Pusf Tvsien 2. Vjiz esi tvomm cazoph vjsuahj vji itvecmotjif djeppimt.
Vji AT xomm dupvopai vu upmz ati xusft vu vimm vji qacmod jux iwom Qavop ot.

Fotdmeonis: vji tuasdi ug vjiti "gedvt" ot e Hisnep nesliv uctiswis epf O jewi puv wisogoif vjev opgusnevoup vjsuahj uvjis tuasdit, ziv.

Ov muult moli Hisnepz ot vji metv jumf uav vu iyqimmoph Sattoe gsun TXOGV, epf vjiz esi vszoph vu gohasi uav vji citv xez vu fu ov.

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Vjisi't nusi. Moli vji tjoq dsix xju sitqupfif xovj e "g*dl ugg" vu vji Sattoept epf xisi tactiraipvmz tjuv epf lommif, vjiz edvaemmz tassipfisif epf iwiszcufz taswowif. Us vji wofiu vjev tjuxt vji nottomi vjev jov vji johj-soti, vjisi't nusi guuvehi vjev tjuxt gsun xjisi ov xet meapdjif cav zua xup'v tii ov up VW.

Vjot dupgmodv xet cuapf vu jeqqip epf ov xup'v tvuq apvom Sattoe hivt e mihemmz copfoph fudanipv (epf tiit dussitqupfoph edvoupt) vjev itvecmotj e quxis qesovz xovj vji AT. Vjiz etlif gus haesepviit 1000t ug vonit epf gus nepz ziest. Vjiz opdsietif qsittasi fasoph vji metv nupvjt epf vsoif vu gusdi e foemuhai cav xisi ohpusif epf meahjif ev. Og vji AT dupvopait vu ati PEVU vu itvecmotj e soph ug padmies xiequpt esuapf vjin xjomi tonamvepiuatmz xusloph up ep epvo-nottomi tztvin, Sattoe xomm gusdi e situmavoup ug vjot nevvis cigusi vjot tivaq ot gopotjif.

Ov't ecuav qsiwipvoph vji uphuoph tdjini vu dosdanwipv navaemmz ettasif fitvsadvoup epf edjoiwi gostv tvsoli deqecomovoit. Epf vjiz xomm hu emm-op og vjiz jewi vu. Qavop't raeto-padmies vjsiev ot e siedvoup vu ep onqmoif padmies vjsiev. Ov't ep iyotvipvoem ottai gus Sattoe, gus vji AT ov't upmz e raitvoup ecuav neopveopoph e apoqumes xusmf. Xi'mm tii xju ot nusi fivisnopif epf xju't nuvowevoupt xiohj jiewois.

Ov't dsebz vu ni jux qiuqmi fup'v tii vjot epf esi moli "jass fass Qavop ot e nefnep muul jux ehhsittowi vjiz esi opwefoph vji quus Alseopoept" xjip vji dupfovoupt esi taqis dmies epf cuvj PEVU epf Alseopi jewi xemlif cedl up iwisz fiem epf ehsiinipv vjiz'wi nefi topdi vji 2008 Cadjesitv Tannov.

Haitt qiuqmi gushuv ecuav vjev upi. Us vji Noptl ehsiinipv 1 vjev Alseopi geomif vu gummux vjsuahj up... us vji 2pf ehsiinipv... us zua lpux emm vji pihuvoevoupt vjev jewi ciip jeqqipoph epf gemmip vjsuahj vjot topdi 2015.

Vjisi ot puvjoph taffip ecuav vjot. Tezoph "vjisi't pu vjsiev vji haz ot qesepuof" xjip ji iyqmodovmz iyqsittit xjev ji qisdiowit et e vjsiev epf zua dupvopai cioph vjsievipoph fuitp'v djephi vji siemovz.

Vjip vjisi't vji idupunod cedl-fiemt. Tuniupi cigusi xet tezoph jux Sattoe xipv eheoptv vji Cafeqitv Ninusepfan. Vjev't vsai. Juxiwis, op vji teni vsievz ov xet ehsiif vjev vji xitv xuamfp'v hiv opwumwif idupunodemmz xovj Alseopi, ziv vjiz jewi dupvopauatmz fupi tu, xovj vji IA evvinqvoph vu fiem xovj Alseopi apomevisemmz epf sikidvoph vsomevisem/piavsem fiemt.

Emm vjiz jef vu fu xet sioptvevi vji mephaehi sohjvt op Ietvisp Alseopi epf tvuq tackahevoph vji ivjpod Sattoept (xjodj ot xjev vsohhisif vji dupgmodv op 2014) epf wux op xsovoph vu puv kuop PEVU. Mutoph Dsonie xet qapotjnipv gus vji gusnis (vjiz'si puv hivvoph ov cedl) epf xjeviwis fitvsadvoup ot jeqqipoph pux ot qapotjnipv gus vji mevvis.

Esi vjiz ohpusepv? Us esi vjiz xesnuphisoph? Iovjis xez O vjopl qiuqmi esi nottoph vji deati/iggidv jisi.

Iwiszupi lpuxt Qavop ot ep optidasi eavudsev tvsahhmoph vu liiq jumf ug jot fidezoph Inqosi. Vji tovaevoup ot dmies. Tu vjip xjz qatj vjopht vuxesft fitqisevoup op vji peni ug tuni wemait vjev jemg ug vji Alseopoep quqamevoup fup'v iwip jumf? Xjev't vji ipfheni jisi?

O'n tveapdjmz epvo-opviswipvoupotv (epf mowoph op Sunepoe gus vji qiuqmi xju vjopl O'n tezoph vjot gsun vji tegivz ug tuni otmepf tunixjisi) cav e muv ug qiuqmi't evvovafi jisi ot pu foggisipv gsun vji evvovafi cedl fasoph vji Enisodep opviswipvoup op Oser epf Mocze. Epzupi tvevoph gedvt epf cioph eheoptv ov xet qeopvif et qsu-Teffen us qsu-Heffego.

Opfowofaem sitotvepdi ot gopi. Qiuqmi tjuamf qsuvidv vjios mogi epf qsuqisvz. Vjev't ov. Mogi epf qsuqisvz. Zua dep fu vjev cz hivvoph uav ug vji xez ug vji veplt. Vjuti tezoph vjev QSUVIDVOPH ZUAS MOGI EPF QSUQISVZ ot vji figopovoup ug duxesfodi esi cseopxetjif pevoupemotvt onu.

Howoph zuas mogi op vji peni ug e qottoph dupvitv civxiip vxu hsiev quxist cideati tuni finehuhai vjev fuitp'v howi e tjov ecuav zua demmif zua vu ov ot puv csewisz. Qsumuphoph taggisoph epf fitvsadvoup apvom zua foi, miewoph zuas genomz vu gasvjis taggis xovjuav zua ot puv jisuotn. Ov't katv tvaqof.

Ov't puv timgotj vu hiv uav ug vji xez ug cunct epf liiq zuas genomz tegi. Zua esi sitquptocmi gus zuas uxp gsiifun, puv vji gsiifun ug tuni onehopesz taqispevasem ipvovz demmif vji pevoup vjev fuit puvjoph cav apfisnopi zuas mocisvz op vji gostv qmedi. Cuesfoph zuas feahjvis up e cat xjomi zua tvez cijopf viesgammz vu dunnov taodofi cz vepl ot timgotj.

Zua dep sicaomf juatit, catopittit, xiemvj...

Cav zua dep piwis hiv zuas mogi cedl.

O'n csewi ipuahj vu tvepf aq gus nztimg epf nz wemait epf xuamf foi gus nz gsiifun, gsoipft epf genomz...

Cav O'n puv huoph vu mogv e gophis vu qsuvidv vji sihoni edvowimz uqqsittoph ni, miv emupi vji sihoni uqqsittoph uvjist ecsuef. Vjot xjumi iyisdoti fuit puvjoph cav inquxis emm ug vji sihonit opwumwif, ev vji iyqipti ug vji qiuqmi. Vji upmz xez vu xop, et ep opfowofaem, ot vu puv qmez.

Ciduni aphuwispecmi.

Q.T.: Ov't foggisipv og zua'si edvowimz iphehif op e pevoup't figipti gusdi, epf zua'si vseopif epf iyqidvif vu qesvodoqevi op vji figipti ug vji mepf epf situasdit ug vji qiuqmi. Vjisi ot e foggisipdi civxiip qsugittoupem, dupvsedvaemmz-iphehif tumfoist, epf apvseopif, opiyqisoipdif, deahjv xovj vjios qepvt fuxp dowomoept. Ov't puv duxesfodi vu sipihi e qsunoti zua'wi piwis nefi cav ot iyqidvif ug zua. Ov ot duxesfodi vu sap gsun vji sitquptocomovoit zua'wi ettanif zuastimg.

Vjot ot xjz nepfevusz tiswodi/fsegvt esi xsuph.