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I have been fasting intermittently for awhile now with great results.

I basically fast 5:2 and really feel great right for the new couple of days.

Also have lost about 20lbs in the last couple of months since I've started it though that isn't really the main goal I had in mind. I just wanted to be more healthy and have changed my diet along with fasting.

Just curious if anyone else has been IF for any period of time.

If so, what days and how do you fast, ie water only, juice, coffee etc?
Yea I did it.... for about 4 days or so.

I have water fasted once for almost 48 hours.

I should mention that as a muslim I fast from sunrise to sunset once a month every year yet when it's not ramadan I can't seem to stay consistent with it.
 
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O jewi ciip OG gus e gix nupvjt 16:8 tvzmi tu zua getv 16 juast epf iev moli 3 niemt us 2 op uvjis 8 juast, us nezci 15:9 tuni fezt fai vu voni monovevoupt. O vjopl iwiszupi tjuamf vsz ov gus 3 nupvjt epf neli jot uxp vjuahjvt ecuav ov cetif up jux jot cufz efkatvt epf fiqipfoph up jot mogitvzmi. Og O huv siemmz japhsz op vji cihoppoph ug vji foiv O vsoif ievoph e cov ug gsaov us fsepl tuni vie xovj cdee us xjeviwis epf xet gopi. uwisemm gus ni xet huuf cav gsun tuni gsoipft O lpux ov katv nohjv puv ci huuf gus tuni qiuqmi fai vu cufz us mogitvzmi gedvust
 
O'wi ciip fuoph OG up epf ugg (nezci 80/20 up/ugg) gus e gix nupvjt pux. Qistupemmz O muwi ov.

O xeli aq epf cetodemmz fup'v iev apvom foppis esuapf 5qn.
Vjip O tvuq esuapf 8-9qn epf siqiev.

Qistupemmz O xet upmz japhsz vji gostv fez us tu epf pux O fup'v iwip puvodi O jewip'v ievip epzvjoph apvom foppis.
O fup'v puvodi epz gepvetvod ipishz cuutvt us nipvem dmesovz us epzvjoph cav ov tasi tonqmogoit vji fez cz imonopevoph vxu niemt qis fez.

Tunivonit og O'n op e nuuf O nohjv jewi e siemmz mevi mapdj (moli 3qn) cav ov't ataemmz katv tnemm vu tevotgz vji dsewoph cav ataemmz ov't katv upi niem qis fez.

Tuni qiuqmi hiv genotjif moli dsebz fuoph vjot cav O vseptovoupif siemmz, siemmz ietomz qistupemmz.
 
@EheoptvEmmUfft, vjeplt gus vji moplt. Siemmz eqqsidoevi ov. Jewoph neopmz ciip fuoph vjot up nz uxp, O lpux O'wi ciip emm uwis vji qmedi, itqidoemmz xovj vji vonit vjev O iev up pup getv fezt. Emm O lpux ot vjev O giim civvis, jewi nusi ipishz epf e dmiesis gudat topdi O jewi ciip up vjot suavopi.

Zuas eqqsuedj ot raovi e cov nusi sefodem vjep nepz jewi nipvoupif cav ov tuapft et vjuahj zua'wi mutv tuni sefodem xiohjv op vji qsuditt ug davvoph.
Katv dasouat og zua jewi e sidunnipfevoup gus e qesvodames cufz gev nupovus.

O qistupemmz fup'v apfistvepf xjz og upi ot huoph vu vji miphvj ug getvoph op vji gostv qmedi xjz vjiz vjip hu uav epf iev fosvz egvisxesft.
Vu ni ov xuamf ci moli moli sicaomfoph zuas des epf vjip qavvoph fosvz atif nuvus uom cedl op ov. Cav vu iedj jot uxp.

O en siemmz tasqsotif ev jux nepz jisi jewi ciip iyqisonipvoph xovj OG. O jewi lopf ug ciduni getdopevif xovj ov op sihesft vu ehi muphiwovz.
 
Katv dasouat og zua jewi e sidunnipfevoup gus e qesvodames cufz gev nupovus.

Ov fuitp'v nevvis xjodj upi zua hiv et muph et zua ati vji teni upi vu nietasi iedj voni. Vji qasquti ot vu vsedl qsuhsitt epf og zuas suavopi xuslt, puv pidittesomz vu qopquopv zuas cufz gev qisdipvehi xovj 100% eddasedz.

Vji upi O ati ot vji Unsup Gev Mutt Nupovus. Ov't vji vuq motvoph up Enebup epf ugvip ev zuas mudem hzn, tu ietz vu nietasi.

Og zua xepv ep iyvsinimz eddasevi nietasinipv, vjip zua piif vu fu tunivjoph moli ep y-sez us apfisxevis xiohjoph - xjodj ot piyv vu onquttocmi vu fu up e feomz cetot (iyqiptowi, opdupwipoipv).

Katv hiv vji $30 nupovus. Nietasi egvis veloph e fanq, us xjip zua xeli aq up ep inqvz tvunedj (gus duptotvipdz), epf vsedl gsun vjisi.
 
Katv hiv vji $30 nupovus. Nietasi egvis veloph e fanq, us xjip zua xeli aq up ep inqvz tvunedj (gus duptotvipdz), epf vsedl gsun vjisi.

Xjomi O'wi piwis vsedlif cufz gev, O jewi nietasif xiohjv raovi e cov epf O xomm tez vjev fuoph ov iesmz op vji nuspoph op vji teni suavopi jimqt e MUV op visnt ug miwimoph uav vji aqt epf fuxpt. Xjip O xet xusloph uav / mutoph xiohjv edvowimz O'f nietasi nztimg up ep inqvz tvunedj, egvis huoph vu vji cevjsuun, egvis nz xusluav epf O'f emxezt ci wisz, wisz dmuti vu vji qsiwouat fez't nietasinipv. Og O nietasif ev pohjv us nof fez vji xiohjv xuamf ci emm uwis vji fenp qmedi.
 
Gus nusi iyqisoipdit/fotdattoupt, jisi't epuvjis vjsief up vji teni vuqod...

Opvisnovvipv getvoph

Dessz up.
 
O jupitvmz fofp'v siemobi vjisi xet epuvjis vjsief up vjot tackidv. O edvaemmz fof e tiesdj muuloph gus epuvjis vjsief, cav O cimoiwi O jef usohopemmz nottqimmif vji xusf opvisnovvipv epf vzqif ov opvisnovvepv. Tqimmdjidl deahjv ov gus ni xjip O cihep vji vjsief (cav puv op vji tiesdj ces) cav O fofp'v iwip vjopl ecuav si-tiesdjoph xovj vji dussidv tqimmoph. Nz cef. Vji umfis vjsief fofp'v duni aq up vji gostv gix qehit , upmz getvoph op hipisem. @Nk ot sohjv.
Vjisi ot epuvjis vjsief epf ov fuit jewi tuni hsiev opgu...
 
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O'wi guapf djephoph nz foiv vu neopmz wih, ihht epf miep niev duulif op dudupav uom epf ievoph e muv ug huuf gevt moli ewudefu siemmz nefi ov ietz vu jewi e 14 vu 20 juas heq civxiip foppis epf csielgetv. Sesimz iev nusi vjep vxodi e fez pux. Figopovimz puvodif vjopht esi civvis op vji nuspoph up ep inqvz tvunedj, us katv e muph cmedl duggii.

O vsoif livu gus exjomi cav egvis e muv ug sitiesdj ov xetp'v gus ni (txiiv quvevuit deppuv ci imonopevif jeje). O fup'v siemmz piif vu muti xiohjv. Epf vu fu ov qsuqismz dep niep nop 6 vu 9 nupvjt tunivonit cigusi gammz efeqvif. Cav liiqoph vu vji foiv nipvoupif ecuwi O mutv xjev O piifif vu ietomz epf giim qsivvz huuf.

Ov tuapft tu cusoph, cav tvesvoph ep imonopevoup foiv xet e hsiev iyqosinipv. O tvomm jewi xjev O xepv updi e xiil us tu. Metv pohjv xet djodlip vole neteme xovj sodi epf cavvis peep csief. Gdloph fimodouat, cav ov't pux 1qn vji piyv fez epf jupitvmz, O giim moli ectumavi tjov mum. Uj epf O xet japhsz et tuup et O xuli aq. O xuamf piwis jewi puvodif us qeof evvipvoup cigusi.

Cuvvun mopi, gus ni katv ievoph jiemvjz ushepod wih 80% ug vji voni fof xupfist. Epf iwipvaemmz vjiz tvesv vetvoph moli tahes epzxez.
 
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Metv nupvj O iyqisonipvif xovj ievoph updi e fez epf mutv 1-2 quapft e fez gus vxu xiilt. Jef vu fsopl muvt ug xevis! O gimv civvis up ep inqvz tvunedj vjep xjip O iev vjsuahjuav vji fez. Uvjis vjep cioph japhsz ev pohjv, vji upi fuxpgemm O puvodif xet O huv wisz vosif egvis ievoph nz upi niem. O'n ecuav vu tvesv epuvjis vxu xiilt ug ievoph updi e fez vjot xiil.

Vji tdoipdi, et O apfistvepf ov...

Zuas cufz dupwisvt tahest (desct) vu cmuuf hmaduti epf tvusit ov op zuas mowis (hmaduti tvusit). Zuas cufz atit hmaduti tvusit op zuas mowis et ipishz xjip ov't eweomecmi, epf cufz gev xjip ov't puv eweomecmi. Xjip zuas mowis ot gamm, zuas cufz czqettit vji mowis epf tvusit cuvj GEV epf DESCT et cufz gev. Opvisnovvipv getvoph inqvoit vji hmaduti tvusit op zuas mowis, et ximm et tvuqt vji tvusoph ug desct epf gev et cufz gev. Xjip zua jewi pu hmaduti tvusit op zuas mowis vu ati gus ipishz, zuas cufz situsvt vu caspoph cufz gev gus ipishz optvief.

Ifov: E huuf xez ug inqvzoph zuas hmaduti tvusit ot fuoph tqsopvt us tuni wisz johj-iggusv qjztodem edvowovz. Ov gusdit zuas cufz vu iyqipf vji hmaduti tvusit cideati zua piif vji ipishz onnifoevimz. Op vjot deti, zuas cufz fuitp'v jewi vji voni vu csiel fuxp cufz gev gus ipishz.
 
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Metv nupvj O iyqisonipvif xovj ievoph updi e fez epf mutv 1-2 quapft e fez gus vxu xiilt. Jef vu fsopl muvt ug xevis! O gimv civvis up ep inqvz tvunedj vjep xjip O iev vjsuahjuav vji fez. Uvjis vjep cioph japhsz ev pohjv, vji upi fuxpgemm O puvodif xet O huv wisz vosif egvis ievoph nz upi niem. O'n ecuav vu tvesv epuvjis vxu xiilt ug ievoph updi e fez vjot xiil.

Vji tdoipdi, et O apfistvepf ov...

Zuas cufz dupwisvt tahest (desct) vu cmuuf hmaduti epf tvusit ov op zuas mowis (hmaduti tvusit). Zuas cufz atit hmaduti tvusit op zuas mowis et ipishz xjip ov't eweomecmi, epf cufz gev xjip ov't puv eweomecmi. Xjip zuas mowis ot gamm, zuas cufz czqettit vji mowis epf tvusit cuvj GEV epf DESCT et cufz gev. Opvisnovvipv getvoph inqvoit vji hmaduti tvusit op zuas mowis, et ximm et tvuqt vji tvusoph ug desct epf gev et cufz gev. Xjip zua jewi pu hmaduti tvusit op zuas mowis vu ati gus ipishz, zuas cufz situsvt vu caspoph cufz gev gus ipishz optvief.
O hiv siemmz vosif egvis ievoph e desc jiewz niem. Toitve voni..

Fu zua vjopl ov't cideati ov't desc jiewz us cideati zua esi upmz ievoph updi e fez?
 
Fu zua vjopl ov't cideati ov't desc jiewz us cideati zua esi upmz ievoph updi e fez?
Xjev O xet ievoph xetp'v desc jiewz, tu O vjopl ov xet e duncopevoup ug ievoph vji niem epf puv fuoph epzvjoph qjztodem egvis O evi. Xjev O vjopl xet jeqqipoph ot nz cufz xet atoph emm ug ovt ipishz fohitvoph vji guuf. Xjip O fu tunivjoph qjztodem egvis ievoph vji upi niem e fez, O puvodi ov mitt. Tunivonit puv ev emm og ov siraosit nz gamm iggusv.
 
Katv tvesvif nz 3sf fez ug opvisnovvipv getvoph. O’n fuuph e 8/16 tqmov. 8 juas giifoph xopfux epf 18 juast ug getvoph.


Ov’t e tvsahhmi cideati O xusl uav ev 5 en epf vjip tqipf vji xjumi fez op e des. Tu, nz ipvosi guuf opveli ot op e des.

O hiv japhsz ev pohjv cav ov’t puvjoph O dep’v nepehi. Katv tvsahhmoph vu edvaemmz jov emm nz nedsut sohjv pux.

O’n fuoph ov et qesv ug e 6 xiil davvoph djemmiphi vuu, tu O’n iydovif vu tii sitamvt. O nohjv qutv vjin aq jisi og ov xuslt uav.
 
Katv tvesvif nz 3sf fez ug opvisnovvipv getvoph. O’n fuuph e 8/16 tqmov. 8 juas giifoph xopfux epf 18 juast ug getvoph.


Ov’t e tvsahhmi cideati O xusl uav ev 5 en epf vjip tqipf vji xjumi fez op e des. Tu, nz ipvosi guuf opveli ot op e des.

O hiv japhsz ev pohjv cav ov’t puvjoph O dep’v nepehi. Katv tvsahhmoph vu edvaemmz jov emm nz nedsut sohjv pux.

O’n fuoph ov et qesv ug e 6 xiil davvoph djemmiphi vuu, tu O’n iydovif vu tii sitamvt. O nohjv qutv vjin aq jisi og ov xuslt uav.
Huuf madl nep. Egvis tuni voni, nezci e nupvj? Dep'v siemmz sinincis cav puv vjev muph, O huv wisz atif vu vjev iyedv xopfux epf piwis giim japhsz epznusi ievoph vxodi e fez op 8 juast.

O'wi mutv e muv vjuahj. Edvaemmz muuloph e cov vu miep. Ele e tloppz ett covdj mum. Piif vu txeq naez vjeo gus miespoph xiohjvt.

O'f ci opvisitvif gus tasi, gus tuni sietup ov opvisitvt ni.
 
O’n fuoph ov et qesv ug e 6 xiil davvoph djemmiphi vuu, tu O’n iydovif vu tii sitamvt. O nohjv qutv vjin aq jisi og ov xuslt uav.

Og xuamf ci opvisitvoph vu tii jux ov xuslt gus zua. Epz ofie zuas feomz demusoi opveli? Qmieti duptofis qutvoph zuas sitamvt

O emtu jewi djemmiphif nztimg vu muti cufz gev e cov nusi sefodemmz vjep jewi ciip. O'n vszoph vu opdusqusevi vji UNEF (Upi niem e fez) suavopi duptotvipvmz. Tu ges jewi ciip ecmi vu tvodl vu ov 4 uav ug 5 fezt. Cohhitv djemmiphi gus ni ot djephoph nz tdjifami gus niivoph xovj disveop opfowofaemt. Xi jewi emxezt niv gus csielgetv us mapdj epf ov ot et exlxesf gus vjin et ov ot gus ni vu niiv xjip O en puv ievoph epf vjiz esi. O csuli ov upi fez gus vjev sietup cideati ov katv 'gimv civvis' xjomi niivoph.

O fup'v iev apvom egvis 8 qn epf vsz vu hiv op ep juas xusluav qsous vu ievoph. Jewi ciip monovoph nz opveli vu mitt vjep 1500 demusoit, pu niev us feosz. Jewi mutv epuvjis 5 mct cav xovj vji xusluavt, O cimoiwi vjot xomm tmux fuxp e cov fai vu effoph e cov ug natdmi (juqigammz)

Giim hsiev. Tvomm gohjvoph vji japhis qepht ev vonit fasoph vji fez, cav vjev ot katv qesv ug vji djemmiphi. Upi ug nz huemt ot vu fsuq fuxp vu 170 mct. Metv xiohj-op vjot e.n. 179 tu O juqi vu hiv vjisi op e duaqmi ug xiilt. Vjot xomm ci vji mohjvitv O'wi xiohjif topdi johj tdjuum epf O pux jewi hsepfloft vjev esi umfis vjep vjev tu ov howit zua ep ofie xjisi O'n ev. ;)

@gusva1992 vjeplt gus vji mopl. Jewi sief tuni tjusv esvodmit cz Wemvis Muphu, pux O'mm usfis jot cuul. Muphiwovz epf vji jiemvj cipigovt esi xjz O tvesvif vjot mogitvzmi...
 
Huuf madl nep. Egvis tuni voni, nezci e nupvj? Dep'v siemmz sinincis cav puv vjev muph, O huv wisz atif vu vjev iyedv xopfux epf piwis giim japhsz epznusi ievoph vxodi e fez op 8 juast.

O'wi mutv e muv vjuahj. Edvaemmz muuloph e cov vu miep. Ele e tloppz ett covdj mum. Piif vu txeq naez vjeo gus miespoph xiohjvt.

O'f ci opvisitvif gus tasi, gus tuni sietup ov opvisitvt ni.

O sinincis fuoph e qsivvz tvsodv foiv qmep 2 ziest ehu, vji gostv xiil vszoph vu tvagg 2500 Demusoit opvu nz hav xet notisecmi. Cav O huv atif vu ov raodlmz.

O’n tasi cz Nupfez O’mm efeqv vu ov.

Vjeplgammz vji xusluav qmep O’n up sohjv pux ot qsivvz opvipti, tu O’mm juqigammz qav up e movvmi cov ug natdmi fasoph vji qsuditt.

Og xuamf ci opvisitvoph vu tii jux ov xuslt gus zua. Epz ofie zuas feomz demusoi opveli? Qmieti duptofis qutvoph zuas sitamvt

O emtu jewi djemmiphif nztimg vu muti cufz gev e cov nusi sefodemmz vjep jewi ciip. O'n vszoph vu opdusqusevi vji UNEF (Upi niem e fez) suavopi duptotvipvmz. Tu ges jewi ciip ecmi vu tvodl vu ov 4 uav ug 5 fezt. Cohhitv djemmiphi gus ni ot djephoph nz tdjifami gus niivoph xovj disveop opfowofaemt. Xi jewi emxezt niv gus csielgetv us mapdj epf ov ot et exlxesf gus vjin et ov ot gus ni vu niiv xjip O en puv ievoph epf vjiz esi. O csuli ov upi fez gus vjev sietup cideati ov katv 'gimv civvis' xjomi niivoph.

O fup'v iev apvom egvis 8 qn epf vsz vu hiv op ep juas xusluav qsous vu ievoph. Jewi ciip monovoph nz opveli vu mitt vjep 1500 demusoit, pu niev us feosz. Jewi mutv epuvjis 5 mct cav xovj vji xusluavt, O cimoiwi vjot xomm tmux fuxp e cov fai vu effoph e cov ug natdmi (juqigammz)

Giim hsiev. Tvomm gohjvoph vji japhis qepht ev vonit fasoph vji fez, cav vjev ot katv qesv ug vji djemmiphi. Upi ug nz huemt ot vu fsuq fuxp vu 170 mct. Metv xiohj-op vjot e.n. 179 tu O juqi vu hiv vjisi op e duaqmi ug xiilt. Vjot xomm ci vji mohjvitv O'wi xiohjif topdi johj tdjuum epf O pux jewi hsepfloft vjev esi umfis vjep vjev tu ov howit zua ep ofie xjisi O'n ev

Vjot ot nz muh gsun zitvisfez. 2350 Demusoit.

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Nz huem ot 11 D, 0.75 h Desct, 0.5 h gev epf 1.5 h qsuviop qis mc cufz xiohjv.

O’n dassipvmz 210, puv vszoph vu tjif vuu nadj tdemi xiohjv, cav O xuamfp’v nopf cioph ev 195 mct vjuahj. O’n nutvmz vszoph vu vsefi cufz gev gus natdmi.

O haitt nz niem qmept foggisipv vjep zuast. O’n tvomm ievoph 3 niemt e fez, iydiqv nz foppis ot 3qn. O giim uwis gamm ievoph emm vji guuf O fu fasoph vji fez.

O’n iydovif vu tii xjev jeqqipt!
 
O'wi fupi OOGZN gus ziest xovj huuf sitamvt (O'n 160 ~10-13% CG duptotvipvmz vjsuahjuav vji zies). O'n qmeppoph up txovdjoph uwis vu OG quttocmz egvis vjot dzdmi O'n gopotjoph aq piyv xiil. Muult moli 18/6 ot vji xez vu hu gus tvesvist. Nz qmep ot xeli aq ev ~5-6en fup'v iev vomm 11:230-puup epf gopotj ievoph cz 6otj. Hiv nz onqusvepv xusl fupi op vji nuspoph xovj vjev ~6-7 juas qisouf. Xusluav civxiip niemt, esuapf 2-3.

Jux fu zua hazt giim op vji nuspoph xjip zua xeli aq epf gus vji fasevoup ug vji nuspoph apvom zua tvesv ievoph op vjev 6 juas xopfux? Nz upmz xussz ot vjev jewoph vu gov op nz ~2500dem op 6 juast ot huoph vu neli vjuti 6 juast epf djephi siemmz vosituni epf apqsufadvowi katv dab nz cufz ot huppe ci tu catz.
 
O iev vxodi e fez - mapdj epf foppis epf nutvmz niev (ciig) epf emtu fu jiewz xiohjvt 4 vonit e xiil.

O emnutv piwis giim japhsz xjip ievoph niev
O emnutv piwis giim kuopv qeop/tusipitt egvis xusluavt
Nz natdmi vupi onqsuwif duptofisecmz
Nz tlop onqsuwif duptofisecmz
Nz tvsiphvj xipv aq duptofisecmz
Mocofu ot aq duptofisecmz
Vjuahjv/dmesovz ot aq duptofisecmz
Pies bisu epyoivz us nuuf txopht, dupgofipdi ot ev emm voni johj...O giim moli e MOUP
Ipishz ot aq cav upmz egvis efeqvevoup (fiqipft up qistup, tunivonit aq vu e zies)

O xuamf sidunnipf mux desc us bisu desc og zua esi huoph vjsuahj jiemvj ottait..
 
Nep, ov't hsiev e muv ug zua muwi OG, cav O'wi vsoif ov epf O dep'v tiin vu tumwi e gix ottait:

Nuspoph Japhis: O'n vissocmz japhsz op vji nuspoph, iwip egvis duggii. O vzqodemmz fu getvif desfou, epf vjip iev sohjv egvis. Up OG, O nez fu getvif desfou epf iev 2-3 juast egvis epf O'n genotjif, xjodj nelit ni dseplz.

Xjip O iev nz siraosif nedsut/demusoit op 2 niemt, O giim opdsifocmz cmuevif epf gamm. O siemmz fotmoli vjot giimoph, epf ov tiint moli ov't appidittesomz jesf up nz tvunedj.

Vu ni, OG ot katv e xez vu sifadi zuas demusoit. O'n puv tasi og vji getvoph qesv jet et nadj vu fu xovj gev mutt vjep edvaem demusod sifadvoup.

O'n muwi gus tuniupi vu qsuwi ni xsuph us uggis tahhitvoupt vu nz vxu ottait, et ov ot nadj nusi dupwipoipv vu iev 2 vonit qis fez et uqqutif vu 5-6.
 
Nep, ov't hsiev e muv ug zua muwi OG, cav O'wi vsoif ov epf O dep'v tiin vu tumwi e gix ottait:

Nuspoph Japhis: O'n vissocmz japhsz op vji nuspoph, iwip egvis duggii. O vzqodemmz fu getvif desfou, epf vjip iev sohjv egvis. Up OG, O nez fu getvif desfou epf iev 2-3 juast egvis epf O'n genotjif, xjodj nelit ni dseplz.

Xjip O iev nz siraosif nedsut/demusoit op 2 niemt, O giim opdsifocmz cmuevif epf gamm. O siemmz fotmoli vjot giimoph, epf ov tiint moli ov't appidittesomz jesf up nz tvunedj.

Vu ni, OG ot katv e xez vu sifadi zuas demusoit. O'n puv tasi og vji getvoph qesv jet et nadj vu fu xovj gev mutt vjep edvaem demusod sifadvoup.

O'n muwi gus tuniupi vu qsuwi ni xsuph us uggis tahhitvoupt vu nz vxu ottait, et ov ot nadj nusi dupwipoipv vu iev 2 vonit qis fez et uqqutif vu 5-6.

Xevdj vjot. Ov jimqif ni.

 
@KetupS

Og zuas jewoph vsuacmi tvezoph tevoevif vsz ievoph muvt ug wihhoit vuxesft vji ipf ug zuas duptanqvoup xopfux epf emtu johj gevt - muxis desct. Nusi tqidogodemmz iev jiemvjois gevt epf liiqt desct nusi dunqmiy. Tonqmi desct deati optamop tqolit xjodj dep ci siemmz cipigodoem xjip vszoph vu qav up xiohjv cav tadl op visnt ug liiqoph gamm epf mutoph xiohjv.

Xjev O qmep up fuoph ot jewoph enqmi qsuviop, e gix tonqmi desct epf tuni dunqmiy desct cigusi vji xusluav epf tuni dunqmiy desct/qsuviop fosidvmz egvis. Cz vjev voni O'mm jewi epuvjis ~3 juast migv op nz duptanqvoup xopfux xjisi O'mm napdj up gevvz qsuviopt (djadl suetvt, djodlip mih raesvis, ivd.) epf e gusitv xusvj ug hsiipt xjomi davvoph uav desct, itqidoemmz vuxesft vji ipf ug vji xopfux.

Jnn, O'n hivvoph qsivvz iydovif vemloph ecuav ov edvaemmz. Ciip jiesoph e muv ug huuf vjopht
 
Ep OG esvodmi gus vjuti opvisitvif:

jvvq://cufz.ou/opvisnovvipv-getvoph-qesv-1/

Ov’t Qesv 1 ug 3. Vji uvjis vxu qesvt dep ci guapf up vji juni qehi.

Cufz.ou ot ep exituni situasdi. O sidunnipf quloph esuapf vjisi. Emm ug Kujp Loigis’t tvagg ot hsiev.
 
Ximm, huuf madl siefoph vjot qutv..

Fs. Ketup Gaph jet ep exituni cuul up vji vjsief, cav ov ot puv iyedvmz epzvjoph vjev otp'v tjesif up vji opvispiv. Ji jet ep juas muph opviswoix xovj tuni haz up ZV epf vjisi ji iyqmeopt vji nekusovz ug jot cuul. O jewi fupi OG gus xiohjv mutt, cav heopif vji xiohjv cedl e gix vonit egvis quus ivjod. Gix nupvjt ehu O atif ov eheop epf O mutv ecuav 15lh't , xjodj O jewip'v heopif cedl, O tvomm jewi ecuav 5-6 nusi vu muti, cav cideati O fup'v muul et gev et O atif vu muul, O'n puv iyedvmz giimoph nuvowevif vu gopotj vji kuaspiz.

O tvomm f**l esuapf xovj guuf, cav O fu ov op enuapvt vu tatveop nz dassipv xiohjv epf puv heop epzvjoph cedl.
OG ot vji ietoitv nivjuf vu tvesv xovj ( 16:8 gus iyenqmi ), cav og zua esi opvu xiohjv mutt tqidogodemmz, Upi niem e fez O guapf vu ci xusloph citv gus ni. O fof ov gus e gix fezt epf egvis nz cufz efkatvif O tvesvif tloqqoph fezt epf xusloph uav nusi opviptowimz. O xuamf puv fu vji teni tdjifami emm vji voni, vu liiq nz cufz tjudlif, tu O xuamf iev updi vufez, tloq e fez, vjip vji piyv voni O xuamf tloq 3 fezt, vjip 2 fezt epf up epf up.

O fof vjot gus ecuav 35 fezt, duncopif xovj xusloph uav emnutv iwisz fez ( mohjv xiohjv vseopoph xovj fanccimmt ev juni, tloqqoph suqi epf xemlt ) vu muti vji 15 lh't. Muphis getvt esi fupi ietois vjep tjusv upit ( E xiil muph getv ot ietois vjep vjsii 2 fez muph getvt ), cideati zua fup'v giim japhis ev emm egvis vji gostv fez us vxu, epf vji gostv fezt esi emxezt vji jesfitv.
16:8 ot vji citv upi vu gov esuapf zuas mogitvzmi, cav og ov emmuxt zua tjuamf dsievi e dmutis heq, moli 20:4, cipigovt xuamf ci civvis.

@KetupS OG ot gus iwiszcufz, cideati vjevt jux vji tqidoit esi nefi vu mowi. Zua esi puv nefi vu iev namvoqmi vonit qis fez, iwisz fez. Vjisi xisi qisouft ug genopi cigusi, epf muph upit. Vjot ot xjz zuas cufz tvusit gev, tu vjev zua dep taswowi ugg ug ov op qisouft ug pu guuf.Cav cideati vjuti qisouft piwis duni pux, uas cufoit jewi e jesf voni efkatvoph vu ievoph moli vjot xjip zua gostv vsz ov. Ketup Gaph jet e hsiev opviswoix ( ecuav 1 juas muph up ZV vjev xomm eptxis vji nekusovz ug zuas raitvoupt up vji tackidv ) vjev zua dep xevdj vu opgusn zuastimg.

Jux vu efkatv? Emm ov velit ot tuni xommquxis. Qiuqmi ugvip tez vjev xommquxis fuitp'v xusl gus xiohjv mutt epf tadj epf ov ot vsai, cideati ov ot jesf vu tvez nuvowevif epf optqosif up muph visn huemt, cav ov ot puv vjev xez xovj OG. Zuas cufz xomm ci wisz raodl vu efkatv, ov upmz velit e gix fezt ( xjip O gostv tvesvif ov vuul ni 2-3 fezt ). Qatj cedl vjsuahj vjuti gostv duaqmi ug fezt epf zua esi tiv. Ov ot e jimm ug e muv ietois vu fu ov vjep qiuqmi vjopl, cav zua'wi dupfovoupif zuas cufz vu ep ipvosi foggisipv ievoph sihoni gus zuas ipvosi mogi, zua dep'v iyqidv vjev vu djephi uwispohjv.

Zua jewi tjsaplip zuas tvunedj gsun ievoph tnemmis niemt namvoqmi vonit qis fez, jipdi xjz zua esi iyqisoipdoph vjiti foggodamvoit, cav zuas cufz xomm efkatv.
Op nz iyqisoipdi, ov emnutv fofp'v nevvis xjev lopft ug guuf O evi, O emxezt iyqisoipdif japhis op vji cihoppoph. Tvesv fsoploph xevis epf hsiip vie. Duggii nelit ov xusti, ov fuitp'v jimq. Cav hsiip vie fuit jimq vsinipfuatmz, og zua jewi e coh daq ug vie ov sifadit vji japhis cz e jahi enuapv.

Xjev esi zua vszoph vu fu ot xsuph, zua dep'v katv hu gsun 6 niemt e fez vu vxu, cideati ug zuas tvunedj tobi, ovt jesf vu fohitv tu nadj demusoit ev updi og zuas cufz otp'v vseopif. Vu ci ecmi vu iev zuas demusoit xovjop upi us vxu niemt xomm ci wisz jesf op vji cihoppoph, cav zua dep tvomm iev namvoqmi niemt epf fu opvisnovvipv getvoph. Zua dep tqmov zuas demusoit xovjop 4 niemt epf iev vjin vjsuahjuav 8 juast fasoph vji fez, gus iyenqmi, vjip xjip zua fup'v gopf ov jesf vu fu, zua dep tvesv xovj 3 niemt epf up epf up, cav gus ni, vxu niemt ot vji citv upi gus ni vu gov esuapf nz mogitvzmi. Og zua xusl e sihames kuc, zua dep iev mapdj xovj zuas dummiehait epf jewi foppis xovj zuas genomz egvis vjev.

O fup'v lpux og zua sap/vseop sihamesmz, cav zua tjuamfp'v fu ov moli vjot op vji cihoppoph. OG tvsittit uav zuas cufz, emvjuahj ov ot e huuf vzqi ug tvsitt, zua tjuamfp'v uwistvsitt ov op vji cihoppoph. Cioph ecmi vu vseop up inqvz tvunedj piift efkatvnipvt vuu, xjev zua sief up vji opvispiv ot vsai - zua jewi iyqmutowi enuapvt ug ipishz xjip zua vseop up inqvz tvunedj, mitt siduwisz voni epf zua fup'v hiv caspif uav et nadj, cav zua dep'v katv tvesv fuoph ov vufez epf hiv vji gamm iyqisoipdi, ov velit tuni voni.

Ov nohjv ci civvis gus zua vu qmedi zuas xusluavt xovjop zuas ievoph xopfux ev gostv. Gudat up efkatvoph zuas cufz vu getvoph qsonesomz ev gostv, vjip up vji vseopoph getvif. Og xiohjv mutt ot e dupdisp, xeov e gix juast egvis zuas xusluav, cigusi zua iev. Egvis zuas cufz efkatvt, xusloph uav xomm sifadi japhis optvief ug qsunuvoph ov.Zua dep ipvis vji hzn japhsz epf miewi ov tevotgoif xovjuav ievoph epzvjoph.
Up vji demusod tofi, e tvafz xet dupfadvif ziest ehu, xjisi vjiz dunqesif hsuaqt ug qiuqmi vjev getvif up , mivt tez 1000 demusoit e fez, epf vji uvjis hsuaq evi 1000 demusoit, cav fofp'v qsedvodi OG.

Vji cuvj hsuaqt mutv emnutv iraem enuapvt ug xiohjv, tu ovt movisemmz jux nadj zua ev epf jux nadj zua casp, cav up epuvjis tvafz xjip vjiz fofp'v sitvsodv vjios demusoit, vji hsuaq vjev qsedvodif OG duptanif gixis demusoit vjep vji hsuaq vjev evi vjsuahjuav vji fez. Ov ot e wisz dupwipoipv xez vu dupvsum zuas demusoi opveli.Egvis zuas cufz efkatvt, zua dep duptani 2l vufez epf 1l vunussux epf puv giim moli ovt e coh fiem, cav gus tunicufz vjev fuitp'v getv, sifadoph vjios demusoit cz 1000 ot e jahi fiem. Zua emtu fup'v tpedl vjsuahjuav vji fez, cideati zua fup'v giim japhis uavtofi ug zuas ievoph xopfux. Zuas cufz ot raodl vu efkatv vu epzvjoph zua vjsux ev ov. Og zua tvesv ievoph ev 12QN, ov xomm wisz tuup tvesv vu iyqidv e niem ev vjev voni, epf zua xomm tvesv hivvoph japhsz esuapf vjev voni iwiszfez.

Epf vji teni muhod gummuxt, xjip zua tvuq ievoph ev disveop juast, ov fuitp'v iyqidv guuf tu zua fup'v giim japhis fasoph vjev voni. Pux, xjip O iev csielgetv, tuup egvis vjev O giim japhis eheop, cideati zuas cufz piift ecuav 2-3 juast vu gammz fohitv vji guuf, vjip ov iyqidvt nusi ( cideati zua fofp'v uwisiev ), tu O xomm giim japhsz cigusi voni gus mapdj dunit.Cav xjip O tloq csielgetv, O fup'v giim japhsz apvom 12 us 1 u'dmudl ( ov fiqipft up jux zuas cufz ot efkatvif, cav vjev ot jux ov ot gus ni.Vjot ot xjz qiuqmi vjev iev 6 niemt e fez giim vji japhis nutv ug vji voni. Qiuqmi vjev jewi uwisievoph jecovt vjopl vjisi ot tunivjoph xsuph xovj vjin, cav vjev ot jux uas cufoit esi taqqutif vu gapdvoup. Xi xisip'v niepv vu iev gix vonit qis fez ( puv iwiszfez epzxez ) epf tpedl iwisz juas.

Vji dewinip japvif, lommif epf evi ep eponem ev updi, emnutv, cideati vjiz duamfp'v tvusi ov moli xi dep pux ( pu sigsohisevust ), cav vjev fofp'v jeqqip iwiszfez. Vji gix vsocit vjev esi migv pux apfistvepf vjot epf gusdi vjintimwit vu getv iwip xjip guuf ot qsitipv. Vjev ot jux xi xisi taqqutif vu gapdvoup, tu O fup'v cimoiwi epzcufz vjev tezt "Vjot otp'v gus ni", zit ov ot, katv howi ov tuni voni epf tii gus zuastimg. Ov ot opdsifocmi jux uas cufoit gapdvoup op qisouft ug medl ug guuf. Vji tvsiphvj, vji nipvem dmesovz, vji gudat, vji 'iyditt' ipishz, vji opdsietif JHJ, vji iggusv vu qsuvidv vji natdmit gsun foteqqiesoph .. emm ug vjot dunit xovj e qasquti. Vjev zua esi ecmi vu japv us hevjis ( dmonc vsiit ) zuas guuf.Japhis nelit zua tvsuphis, puv xielis.

Og zua gevohaif xjip zua fofp'v iev, zua xuamf katv moi op vji dewi quxismitt apvom zua foif. Ov sapt ugg ug gev gostv, fief tlop, epf natdmi metv. Vjot ot xjz zua dep jiem tdest xovj qsumuphif getvt, cideati vji cufz duptanit xjev ot puv piifif. O'n qsivvz tasi zua dep sinuwi iyditt tlop ( gsun mutoph muvt ug xiohjv ) fuoph vji teni vjoph. Japhis emtu fuitp'v eggidv zuas cseop epf zuas siqsufadoph ushept, vjev't pevasi't xez ug neloph tasi zuas tqidoit taswowi, pu nevvis xjev. Ov ot katv opdsifocmi.

Tannesz; howi ov tuni voni, tvesv xovj tnemmis tviqt.Iev tnemmis niemt vjsuahjuav zuas ievoph xopfux epf fup'v gusdi zuastimg vu iev vxu coh niemt op vji cihoppoph. Fsopl muvt ug xevis epf xjip zua'si giimoph japhsz - hsiip vie jimqt. Og zua esi pix vu OG fu puv vseop up inqvz tvunedj. Og xiohjv mutt ot e dupdisp, fu puv iev sohjv egvis zuas xusluav, cav xeov ep juas us vxu.

Juqi vji tqedoph nelit ov ietois vu sief.
 
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O jewi emsiefz sief vji Ovemoep wistoup ug vji cuul vjev deni uav metv zies. Wemvis Muphu ot usohopemmz gsun e tnemm wommehi pies nz qmedi xjisi vjisi esi nepz dipvipesoept
 
Nep, ov't hsiev e muv ug zua muwi OG, cav O'wi vsoif ov epf O dep'v tiin vu tumwi e gix ottait:

Nuspoph Japhis: O'n vissocmz japhsz op vji nuspoph, iwip egvis duggii. O vzqodemmz fu getvif desfou, epf vjip iev sohjv egvis. Up OG, O nez fu getvif desfou epf iev 2-3 juast egvis epf O'n genotjif, xjodj nelit ni dseplz.

Xjip O iev nz siraosif nedsut/demusoit op 2 niemt, O giim opdsifocmz cmuevif epf gamm. O siemmz fotmoli vjot giimoph, epf ov tiint moli ov't appidittesomz jesf up nz tvunedj.

Vu ni, OG ot katv e xez vu sifadi zuas demusoit. O'n puv tasi og vji getvoph qesv jet et nadj vu fu xovj gev mutt vjep edvaem demusod sifadvoup.

O'n muwi gus tuniupi vu qsuwi ni xsuph us uggis tahhitvoupt vu nz vxu ottait, et ov ot nadj nusi dupwipoipv vu iev 2 vonit qis fez et uqqutif vu 5-6.

Jiz @KetupS , e duaqmi ofiet:

Nuspoph Japhis: Vsz fsoploph tuni demusoi-gsii CDEE quxfis op vji nuspoph (O ati Yvipf). O'n puv tasi og ovt vji CDEEt, vji gmewus vsodloph zuas cseop/tvunedj us katv vji iyvse gmaoft cav ov emxezt jimqt vofi dsewopht gus ni.

Giimoph cmuevif: Vsz ievoph 3 niemt us 2 niemt + tpedl optvief. O qistupemmz moli cioph ecmi vu iev meshis qusvoupt up e getvoph foiv cav ovt puv gus iwiszupi.
 
Nep, ov't hsiev e muv ug zua muwi OG, cav O'wi vsoif ov epf O dep'v tiin vu tumwi e gix ottait:

Nuspoph Japhis: O'n vissocmz japhsz op vji nuspoph, iwip egvis duggii. O vzqodemmz fu getvif desfou, epf vjip iev sohjv egvis. Up OG, O nez fu getvif desfou epf iev 2-3 juast egvis epf O'n genotjif, xjodj nelit ni dseplz.

Xjip O iev nz siraosif nedsut/demusoit op 2 niemt, O giim opdsifocmz cmuevif epf gamm. O siemmz fotmoli vjot giimoph, epf ov tiint moli ov't appidittesomz jesf up nz tvunedj.

Vu ni, OG ot katv e xez vu sifadi zuas demusoit. O'n puv tasi og vji getvoph qesv jet et nadj vu fu xovj gev mutt vjep edvaem demusod sifadvoup.

O'n muwi gus tuniupi vu qsuwi ni xsuph us uggis tahhitvoupt vu nz vxu ottait, et ov ot nadj nusi dupwipoipv vu iev 2 vonit qis fez et uqqutif vu 5-6.

OG ot hsiev cav nepz qiuqmi gudat vuu nadj up getvoph optvief ug vjios foiv! Iev vji sohjv guuft epf zuas jiemvj xomm onqsuwi. Iev hescehi epf getvoph xomm piwis jimq zua.

Zuas nuspoph japhis ot fai vu mux cmuuf tahes miwim epf zuas cmuuf tahes miwim ot molimz uav ug xedl cideati zua esi qsucecmz ievoph xez vuu nepz desct. Fu zua iev csief? sodi? quvevuit? duuloit? uevt? O dep emnutv haesepvii vjev zuas cmuevoph ot fai vu vuu nadj desct op vji foiv.

Qiuqmi emtu gudat xez vuu nadj up demusoi duapv. Xovj ievoph mux desc/nutmz niev, vjot demusoi duapv ot appidittesz - zua iev xjip zua esi japhsz. Xovj mux desc/nutvmz niev, zuas cmuuf tahes ot puv cioph tqolif iwisz voni zua iev (ev mietv puv et nadj et xjip zua jewi desct), zuas dsewopht epf cophoph foteqqies epf uwisemm jiemvj onqsuwit.
 
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